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    Posted: December-11-2021 at 4:30pm
Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

Hi Guys,
... decided to stop at 5 gig. Room i use gets to hot in summer.  Very happy with that figure and thanks for all the help.
 

Sounds good.  Yes, I think you'll be quite happy with your rig with this.  You're welcome for any help we've been able to provide.

Quote Merry Xmas to all and have safe and great time.

And to you too!

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Hi Guys,
Sorry for the delay but family crsis prevented me from returning.
Don yes i have recorded all have decided to stop at 5 gig. Room i use gets to hot in summer.Very happy with that figure and thanks for all the help. If i ever get it back into a temp controlled room then i may ahve another go.
Merry Xmas to all and have safe and great time.
BR
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Les,
There is no graph produced by HWMonitor.  Haven't you been writing down or otherwise saving the data from HWMonitor readout screen?  

I found the HWMonitor, or HWInfo64 readouts much more accurate than OCCT's reported temps.  The stress tests are sound, except for the false FAILS some of us experienced in the first couple minutes of the stress tests.  (-- see the guide outline.)

Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

 Looking at the graph for temp, the max which is only a spike is much higher that the average. Do still go by the spike value even though its very short.

Look at the min/max column of the HWMontior for your CPU package temps, and max power draw.  Follow exactly the outline given in the guide.

If you're not sure what to do, post your results here, but I think its pretty straightforward.  Don't use the OCCT Graph, use your HWMonitor results.

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Just as a possible point of interest (and comparison) I was able to complete this same build over the summer and have been using it since then.

First of all, I never got to 5.1 and was hitting the wall with 5.0. The possible reason? I really wanted to reuse a Lian-Li super case from an old build but with the one disadvantage that it only had room for 2 x 140mm fans at the top so I had to use the Corsair H110i cooler (280mm). In percentage area terms not such a big difference but it was key in my not hitting 5.1 I think! Basically that cooler can handle around  220-230w processor load, not enough for 5.1 or higher with the 10900K. 

Originally Nick asked if I was interested in trying the build on air just to see where I could get. Unfortunately I didn't have the time back then but I suspect the results might have been similar.

That said, in actual use with all my current sims (including MSFS) it's more than enough. In fact I have three tested profiles, 5.0, 4.9 and 4.5. Even at 4.5 it cruises along nicely at even lower voltage, power and temps and I find I'm using that profile most of the time currently.

After experimenting I found having my rad at the top, exhausting air pulled in from the front plus a rear exhaust fan, was best at cooling the rad and getting rid of heat from the GPU which I hadn't fully considered at first. I also use high performance fans and the ones on the rad are pressure rated to force the air through. It's a bit noisy at full throttle (only needed during clock testing) but in normal use not a problem at all.

I appreciate there may be a more than linear jump in performance going to 5.1 or higher and that's an option to try with a new case if I ever feel the need.

Rob
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Be careful about changing fans around, etc an then changing the test.

In other words, if you have established a 5.0 tested clock and recorded your min/max temps over those tests, then don't start flipping things around and changing compound to see what 5.1 does...  keep changes to one at a time and rerun the high temp LINPACK test for like 15 minutes a shot @5.0 in order to do a direct established compare.

If you see a positive change, then perhaps add another change into the mix and repeat 5.0 Linpack for analysis. Don't just jump to 5.1 until you have gone through what ever you can with 5.0 to see reductions in temps.

Your diagnostic in this respect is important because if you make a lot of changes in one swoop and then just try jumping to 5.1, you are not maintaining a established repeatable experiment that can be compared easily.

It could be possible replacing the TIM pad with a liquid metal compound is better due to unseen factors....  but it could, in theory, run hotter. There is no way to know without making the change and you can not replace the TIM pad Corsair provided with the liquid head unless they sell that separate from the complete system in the box.


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That thick compound you call thermal 'paste' is not paste. It is a TIM compound pad and they are designed to be thick before first contact. They compress and melt as the heat up and create a contact bond between the liquid head and the CPU.

If you remove the liquid head off the CPU it breaks the TIM compound seal and it will require complete cleaning of the CPU and liquid head, then application of a decent thermal 'paste' which is different.

I found the TIM pad that came with the H150i to be good. I did not have any reason to replace or change it.

If you want to try replacing the TIM with a paste (or something like liquid metal CoolLabratory Pro), you can, but just remember once a TIM pad seal has been broken by removing the liquid head, you can not put it back on without cleaning the TIM off both parts and replacing it with paste or compound. 

Pulling it off and putting it back on with the same TIM is a no-no.



I have never heard of a tower with all fans blowing out..   that seems strange. Typically there is some type of pass through air flow that brings cool air from outside the tower, inside, and then expels heat from inside the tower, out.

Which way and which direction can sometimes be a matter of trial and error. And if a tower is jammed under a desk it can succumb to recirculating its own heat as the heat is trapped und the desk or in a cubby. Tower needs to be able to breath. 

In with the good air, out with the bad 



Folks have said my suggestion for towers in the past are monster boxes. Smaller or more compact towers can't breathe the same volume of air a good size full tower can and although the larger towers may appear to be somewhat obtrusive, with the fans and air volume they provide, they can sometimes make a positive difference to the end result


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Thanks,
I was only mulling the idea over but i am quite happy with 5.0gig. So i think at
this point i will try the 3d test and call it quits. May play again sometime in the future.
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I'm sure you've read this thread, but you might want to re-read it about pg 15 or thereabouts.


Like I said, 5.0 MHz on all 10 cores is not a bad deal, but I understand wanting to see if you can get all the performance you can get safely and sanely.

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Don,
Thanks, tried for 5.1 but temps are max 91c.Wonder if i tried redoing the thermal paste would help. When i installed the cpu it looked like a lot of paste had been applied.
All my fans are as Nicks so maybe 5.0 is all i am going to get.
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P.S i used the same case as Hans.Even installed a 200mm fan in the side.
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Just to fill in any blanks, as given in the Overclocking the Z490_10 Guide, I originally started with the 9700 OCing guide, so I had already set up my thermal limits and safety net (283w,284 w).  But by the time I was at 5.2 I had never hit the power limits set, and my temps never came close to max limits.  As Nick said, I did a LOT of homework in choosing my case and fans and setup -- time that was well spent.  

Also the  truth of the matter is that we set this up with a relatively early release of the 10900K and I was lucky enough to get a good CPU slug (Not a "Golden Chip" but very good,) and a good quality run of the Motherboard production. 

On the two trials I just posted the temps from, my max power draw was 251w on the CPU:OCCT at 5.2 GHz:

VCore    1.359     (0.746-1.421)
Pwr      219       (10.3-251)
Temp     68        (29-86)
IA       0.963
VID      1.469     (1.145-1.470)
VCCIO    1.200     (1.168-1.200)
VCCSA    1.200     (1.168-1.200)

Before locking things down after fine-tuning the system, we did set the power limits lower for for added safety and longevity:

Long Duration Package Power Limit [254] 
Package Power Time Window [2]     
Short Duration Package Power Limit [255]

By this time I had run upwards of 50-60, and likely near almost 100 trials as Nick provided guidance and I simply painted the strokes under his tutelage.  As we tweaked the process throughout all those trials I never hit those power limits (never hit 254w or 255w in HWMonitor unless those spikes were so transient that it was never picked up by HWMonitor,) and by that time had a solid database of data points showing just  how my particular system acted.  It is possible that there was some throttling by the setup scaling back a bit with the OCCT:Linpack at 5.2 when the AVX instruction set was sensed though, but I don't think so.

As has been pointed out by Nick, every system is individual.

Best, Don

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Hi Nick,
Thats a pretty good summary. Was going to ask the questions you have already answered. Yes i found having radiator fans as air out gave me best results. I notice all my fans are air out. Thats how the case fans were set. Do think redoing cpu thermal paste would help. I noticed when installing heatsink, to me seemed there was to thicker layer of it.
I know my temps at 79c are a bit high but i do want to try and see how safely high i can go. Good to know if my safety net is correct then i cant destroy anything.
Don:Thanks also,you also answered one of my questions on HT temps.
Thanks
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It is also pretty obvious that Don got a CPU with a very flat face lid and no under-cap air bubbles or deviations. That is usually seen with the initial runs of processors so I would venture to guess he bought his 10900K early in the release.

He also analyzed his rig for optimal air flow. In his case he found drawing air in with the radiator on the front on the tower (cant remember if he runs a side fan) and evacuating out the top/back, the best way to go for his.

Your mileage may vary

In my case (no pun intended) I found it best to have the radiator on top, evacuating air through it out the top with the 3 radiator fans, a large front fan for intake (230mm as I recall) at the bottom/front, a very large side door fan intake (230mm) and a 140mm rear fan (exhaust)    Been using the same tower for over 10 years HAF 932 | Cooler Master however I did change the fans out for higher velocity/quieter run. Its in the HASWELL ON AIR thread..  tower hasn't changed, just added the radiator to the top.

I also maintain a room (actually entire house) climate control of 78F with a humidity of 38-45% year round with little change. (unless the little ho's who are tending to me are messin with my house climate controls - I'm not up and around right now) Tongue



There is no set temp range although someone can look at a result and suggest there may be an issue, there is no way anyone can tell you what temp will be what you should see for any CPU speed,..  unless an expert is sitting in the room and looking everything over in order to make suggestions for changes.


Last

You can not blow anything up as long as:

You set the BIOS up as defined which included a thermal limit in the CPU settings

You set OCCT to shut down at the defined temp setting outlined in the document

If those are set..  you can whack it to the wall and if the temp limits are reached, software or BIOS will stop the carnage with ZERO DAMAGE. That's why I set it up that way! Idiot proof, which included myself  Big smile


On the flip side..   you may be getting closer to your TOWER WATT LIMIT on temps on OCCT:LINPACK due to the AVX code hit. I CLEARLY explain that in the document and there is a setting you will make once you start hitting the max TEMP limits by observing the WATT LOAD@ MAX TEMP


That's something Don did not explain..   he has a WATT LOAD LIMIT SET and I do not know if he is hitting it (he would have tell you that) and his system is somewhat throttling @ 5.2

It may not hit the limit on his!  But others MAY

Just because you throttle some @ 5.2 by using WATT LOAD LIMITS, doesnt mean you cant run 5.2


You must very well understand that these load test are far harsher than anything you will ever throw at the tower in NORMAL USE. You are simply finding the highest stable limits with safety protocols being added and put in place as you go.

Your tower will never hit what LINPACK or HCI on memory load tests will do to it

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Hi Les,

    No HT HT
5.1 GHz
CPU: Linpack 64
Temp:   78 (32-81) 60 (29-79)

CPU:OCCT
Temp    78 (30-81)     63 (29-76)

5.2  GHz
CPU:Linpack 64
Temp:   78 (32-81) 69 (30-85)

CPU:OCCT
Temp:   59 (31-64) 68 (29-86)

I can guess your next question....  LOL   Why are the temps lower with HT enabled than without HT?  

The OCCT Linpack test wasn't designed to stress test CPU HT capabilities.  The actual threads are running spread across the logical cores of 20 vs 10.  This is strictly a stability test with the AVX-1 instruction set for CPU heat and with the memory in play.  

That does not mean that when running "real life" applications or a simulator that is coded to take full advantage of HT, that you won't see the higher temps. OCCT CPU is about overall CPU stability alone.

Best, Don

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Don,
What temps do you get with 5.1 and 5.2 with and without HT.
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Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

How many threads should i run in Memtest Pro.

10 threads = one per physical core in non-HT testing.  Uncheck the [] Low priority threads as you are running the test by itself, not otherwise using your computer while the test is in progress.  It takes a while if you are testing 32 GB of ram -- I typically let it run overnight while I slept, as there was no point in watching the display.  I think for most of my tests I ran 1200% - 1500%, sometimes longer but 800% is a minimum.

When testing w/ HT enabled I ran 20 threads, one per logical core.  I am not sure if that is necessary, but since we must run all logical cores on OCCT:Linpack x64 when testing with HT, I did the same on the HCIMemest when stabliity testing with HT enabled.

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Hi Don,
Thanks for the comments,i have installed after burner and my gpu temps have dropped about 8 degrees.I have yet to do HCI Memtest and HT,thats tomorrows job. I will try for 5.1 and see how far else i can get and if it gets to hot and instability occurrs i can throttle it back.
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P.S How many threads should i run in Memtest Pro.
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Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

  Turned my fans around and now get between 75 to 79 during Linpak.
Its interesting, that throttle back i get seems to ocurr every 8mins for about 1.5mins.

Glad to see those temps fall back into a more expected range! Thumbs Up  That is normal on the Linpak (AVX) test.  Its actually not "throttling", its how the OCCT test is designed, but I understand your description perfectly.

Quote I think i can live with that temp range. Cant go any higher for clock speed cause the room i use gets quite hot in Summer.

It's your call and your investment.  But, as you are no longer in the mid 80's temps at 5.0 GHz, I don't think its a great risk to give 5.1 GHz a try.  Do set your Thermal Limits as described in the outline.  Even if you decide to take what you have and quit at this point, you can have the satisfaction that 5.0 on all 10 cores is a good solid performer and I think you will be quite happy with it.

During the time I was initially setting up my system and running the test trials, my air conditioning went out on a hot day here in southern California. Normally my ambient room temps are 78 degrees F, but they were in the high 80's - mid 90's that day.  Yes, my CPU package temperatures on the trials DID raise a few degrees C over what I had been seeing on the earlier trials. 

Lastly though, I do have some attention on those GPU fans.  Let me know what you do / find out regarding them.

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Thanks Don,
i have just turned the fans round so i am now blowing hot air out. Just running the test now.
Les
P.S Turned my fans around and now get between 75 to 79 during Linpak.
Its interesting,that throttle back i get seems to ocurr every 8mins for about 1.5mins.I think i can live with that temp range. Cant go any higher for clock speed cause the room i use gets quite hot in Summer.
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I have my radiator mounted on the front with the three fans drawing in cool air.  Three case fans at the top, blowing hot air out, two on the bottom side pulling cool air in, and the last fan at the rear blowing hot air out the rear.  All but the radiator fans are controlled with the ASUS FanXpert4.  The radiator fans are controlled with ICue software.

Hans has his radiator on the top blowing hot air out.  

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Thanks Nick,
Tried your suggestions but no luck. Today my temps are now in the mid 80's.
Which way round are the H150 cooling fans supposed to go.Blowing cool in or sucking hot air out. Currently i have cool air being blowing into the case.
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There you go!   I stand corrected, and a good catch indeed!

Completely my error as I had switched up in my mind CPU:OCCT and CPU:Linpack (the latter is the AVX set test.)  Last night I ran CPU:OCCT for 60 minutes and saw a max of 4 degrees jump transiently, before I responded.

YES, on CPU:Linpack the usage/temps jump up as Nick says.  I apologize for any cardiac arrests I may have been responsible for.....  Cry Embarrassed

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Its fine

OCCT Linpack and CPU go through a series of both full-on loads and also throttles backs for short periods, then reloads the CPU, and repeats during each test...  normal.

although I agree it appears to be up there in max temps during the two tests @ 5.0...


As was stated, the final temps of any system will depend on the tower ambient room temp, the tower fans/circulation (make sure the tower fan curves will run 100% fan @ 70c in the Asus Fan Xpert software and Corsair radiator fan curves are set to run 100% when liquid temp in iCUE reaches 38c), the proper flat liquid head connection to the CPU (you can place a slight torque with a screwdriver on each of the liquid head screws, but be gentle) and finally the CPU itself and the lid to CPU die contact underneath the lid as well as how flat the lid itself is to the liquid head.

After loading a CPU down it is possible the thermal pad relaxed a touch (it melts) so giving the 4 screws on the liquid head a little torque with a screwdriver may be needed. Use a X pattern, one corner screw, then opposite corner, then above and across, for equal torque.


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Hi Don,
Pump speed in ICUE is 2353 as i have it set as Balanced.
Finished testing both Linpak(79c) and CPU(68c) and all passed.
My GPU temps in Hwmonitor are 41c and speed is 0. I dont have after burner installed.
Yes it is worrying re the CPU temp in Linpak.I will check wiring. Any other things i could do.Its a closed loop so i cant do anything re bubbles can i.
I will run Linpak again tomorrow and see if the same behaviour is noticed.
Thanks
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P.S Could it be the cpu sensor on motherboard at fault?
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Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

  i have it running now for 30mins and the left hand column sits at 80c.Most of the cores sit at about mid 70s but three seem to be 80c.

That sounds pretty typical, I have about 3 cores that run a bit hotter over time.  All cores vary in the transient temps moment to moment.  

Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

I noticed occasionally the cpu reads 54c and then will pop up to 74c.

The CPU package temps will jump 20 deg C on CPU:Linpack?  Holy smoke!  <= [EDIT] False Alarm.

My temps can jump up transiently up to 4 degrees but 20?  Something does not sound right here.  Sounds almost like air bubble circulating or some intermittent pump failures like bad connection/wires.  It should NOT being doing that.

What is the AIO pump speed in ICUE?

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Yes, I use MSI Afterburner to set up my GPU fan speeds and monitor GPU temps.  Since you are really using minimal graphics power while running these tests its not surprising that the fans are not doing much, but the fans should be running.

On HWMonitor what are your GPU temps?  GPU fans speeds?

For example, right now just using my browser my 3090 is running at 29 deg C, and each of the two GPU fans are running at 1005 RPM.

Also, what is your pump speed on ICUE? (mine is running 2336 as I type)

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Don,
i have it running now for 30mins and the left hand column sits at 80c.Most of the cores sit at about mid 70s but three seem to be 80c. I noticed occasionally the cpu reads 54c and then will pop up to 74c. Whats happening here. I still see the clock freq of 5gig.My ambient temp is 68f and the case i am using is the same as Hans(happyflyer) is using with nothing in the case. I wound up the radiator fans to extreme which helped.I noticed there is some heat comming from the GPU and its fans are not running. I am using a RTX3070. Are you using something like after burner to control gpu fan speed.
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Originally posted by kiwi kiwi wrote:

 Is the stock heatsink compound that comes with the H150i alright to use.

Yes.  The thermal compound Corsair supplies with the H150i is actually quite good. As long as the AIO's head is tightened properly and making good level contact with the CPU heatspreader cap. Screws are hand-tightened with fingers only (no pliers!) but as snug as your fingers and thumb can make them.  Tightened as changing a tire -- i.e. tighten opposite screws and work around evenly so the unit is tightened onto the CPU evenly.

Your temps are a bit higher than mine were on the trials for CPU:Linpack at 5.0 GHz but well below any Danger Redline. Size of your case, orientation and number of fans, ambient room temperature all can influence temps. 

For 5.0 GHz my temps averaged 75 degrees (max was 78), on 60min CPU:Linpack.

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Thanks Don,
Looks like i have some work to do. Started the test and Linpak running my cpu
temps after 5min were 83c. Is the stock heatsink compound that comes with the H150i alright to use . That is what i am using and i think the cooler is installed corectly.
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Hi Les,

This doesn't mean anything is fundamentally wrong!  It only indicates that in the present state one of the key voltages is too low.  This is where the fun begins.  

Since you didn't post any voltages and the VID I assume this is just the base starting point, and no tests were being run?  The system was just sitting idle for an hour, then locked up?

What does VID display at in HWMonitor with your starting point voltages?  You will adjust your Offset Voltage in the BIOS by 0.010 until the VID is at the target value of 1.315.

A screen shot of HWMonitor would be helpful here.  

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Thanks Don,
Could not see anything in the manual but thought i would ask.
I have another question,i have got to the stage to start the 5gig stage step 6.
After setting up the bios and booting into win10 all ok. However after about 1hr
the system is locking up. I have not tried adjusting anything but assumed at this
starting point it would be in its most tame state and would be quite stable. Am i wrong or do i have something else amiss. My memory in memtest past ok.It had been quite stable untill adjusting bios for 5.0gig test.
Comments on this would be appreciated as i dodnt want to go on if there is something fundamentally wrong.
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Ahhh!   Not all of the Corsair PSUs are ICue controlled.  Mine (AX860) is not and it is dedicated single rail.

From what I see under the technical specs for the HX1000 on Corsair's website, it is also not ICue controllable.  

Its been a non issue for me, even with the RTX 3090 onboard.

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Hi Don,
Yes i can get to that point but isnt the H150I the AIO cooler?. I want to be able to control the Power supply fan(HX1000). Nick indicates in his Bible that the fans are set in Icue.
I have been able to do the H150I ok.
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Did you click on the graphic of the Corsair H150i on the top border of the main menu?  

This opens a popup with options of Lighting Effects, Hardware Lighting, Cooling, Alerts, and Device Settings.  Select Cooling and another popup menu will open.  Press the + button and add a Custom Cooling Preset.  You can create your custom cooling curve there.

I'm on a different computer, but if you need a screen shot or two I can do that later.  I think Nick posted some screen shots -- try an advanced search and see if you can find his post on this.

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Hi,
I am having some difficulties in finding the P/S fan adjustment in Icue v4. I did come across it but now cant find it.
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Thanks Don,
I just did not read the first screen properly.All ok now.
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On the first boot on the new bios, an initial small options screen should have come up that asks that question.  Its only given once, thereafter it won't show.  Don't select  the "load with optimized settings" option.  You must select the F3 from that screen.

You can press "Clear CMOS" button on the back panel, and it will clear the settings and should give you a fresh BIOS on the next boot, and you'll start again from scratch.

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I have just updated the bios to 0607 and in Nicks guide hes says

"CRITICAL: When the BIOS is first booted on the first BIOS enter screen when prompted be sure to HIT
F3 to “UNLOCK LIMITS FOR INCREASED PERFORMANCE”
F3 is the Favourites menu, am i supposed to see other options to select or is he saying by hitting F3 you have automatically unlocked any Limits.
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Thanks,
Will download it now.
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Les,

The current free version 9.3 from the author's site is fine.  I'm running it now on another PC putting it through the paces.



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