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Reset CMOS 

Now.. assuming it was forced because the CPU was removed from the board..  I get that and it may have been required when the CPU was removed but I would have hit F3 as I did originally, then rebooted and after that reload a profile.

You reset the CMOS, assuming you hit F3 and then go right to a saved profile. That is not how it was originally setup. The BIOS was changed for the specific memory/hardware first, saved, rebooted and then after that was changed. In this scenario the routine was different 

I think that is probably the source of ASSUMING what you said can be repeated and you did not do that more than once and saw this anomaly only once.


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The jackwagon customer and the Asus rep response.. Man are you easily mislead.

By both the person who posted that review and by the marketing response agent.

First of all, the complaint never states the memory was tested and passed

Second, the complaint suggests the person used slots 2-4 in order to run what they had waiting for a replacement board because slots 1 and 3 were throwing boot code failures..  what's wrong with that picture??  WHAT ARE THE PRIMARY SLOTS FOR 2 STICK OPERATION? 

A2 and B2 slots 2 and 4!  page 1-5 in the RTFM!

Third, person claims the replacement WHICH WAS PROBABLY A RMA REPAIR/REPLACE this time slots 2-4 would not boot and had error codes.  Could be! Or if it was just a new replacement, could be the first board was fine and the replacement was actually borked.

Did this person ever say that memory was tested and confirmed? NO!

Did this person know that slots 1-3 are NOT the primary slots for 2 stick operation?  Apparently NO

Did this person ever say they were running or tried to run 4 sticks of memory?  NO!


When you had your issues did you get boot code errors like this person?  NOT from what you reported, only memory test errors.


And, last..   the so called Asus Rep. The marketing guy that tries to tone down the problem, apparently did not see any of the above in the complaint and ask about it... just came up with some standard canned story about bent CPU pins and tight HSF's.. and say contact us for assistance.



You read way too much into things and assume too much.



I'll address the rest after I come down from the BS above
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All I said was that I recalled reading an Asus rep said that to much pressure on the CPU can cause memory controller issues. I had a vague recollection of it! You seemed to express an interest in seeing it and I found it where I vaguely remembered seeing it and posted it.
I'm not the expert here. My comment and hunches and guesses. You shouldn't read anything more into them you mean old bastard!TongueLOL
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That Newegg review reads like a slick MSI trick <I am going to buy an MSI ACE> (you know, the guys that got 100% nailed price fixing using a subsidiary named company: https://hothardware.com/news/msi-implicated-in-ampere-scalping )  and a very dumb Asus 'marketing' not technical, rep.

These companies have become ruthless and Newegg or Amazon would be the last place on the planet I would give any credence to tech reviews and responses after the last year or so of competitive debauchery when it comes to high desired tech product sales.

That's all I am going say.


You can reset you watt load to 259/260, its fine


I would say if there is more room to work, get that penny size divot in the IHS as small as possible if not completely removed.


Note I said..  if there is room to work. If you are not sure, pull the board and check the clearance as any responsible engineer or computer technician/clocker, would. 

A flashlight and a good eyeball works for that unless its really tight.
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If you want to just try 5.2 now that the watt load is set..  give a shot and see what it does.

But it appears to me you were going the right direction with getting the cap straitened out. Question is do you have enough clearance to finish the job.

I can't answer that...




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and apparently you also never tested reductions in VID with offset, which I thought you were going to do.

VID comes down, Vcore comes down, temps come down.  How much? 

I don't know, .. third BASE!


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Originally posted by Avidean Avidean wrote:


I'm not the expert here. My comment and hunches and guesses. You shouldn't read anything more into them you mean old bastard!TongueLOL


You keep posting and asking me about results...   I don't have all the answers. All I can do is look at the facts, kick the bullsh*t to the side and tell you what I see. 


I can't tell you what to do next. I'm not sitting there working with the system.

I'm sorry things have gotten a little more complicated than they were in the past. We weren't running 10 core processors with HT on high clocks safe and we certainly weren't running that with DDR4 4000+ memory.

Drag race and pay as you go..  or do the best you can, accept it..  and be cautious as you go. 


I have provided everything to accomplish the latter. It appears to me you have already achieved the 5.1 mark with HT fairly easy after all the hardware duckups you created were fixed! And you didn't have to sand or lap the processor to do it. 

I don't have any magic beans I didn't list outside the document I produced. 


and I'm the mean old bastard. 



I'm done for now. Need to rest.


Merry Christmas

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Ah come on Nick! Its all in the George Costanza spirit. I'm sorry I didn't mean to hurt your feeling. I thought you didn't have any. Here's a big Christmas thank you from me and I'm sure everyone else you have immeasurably helped.



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Anyway that's the end of the road for me.
It took 1.475 to pass Linpack and I saw 93c
on core #2 and my Max watt Load is already set to 260 in the bios.
All the other cores where below 90c.
CPU was throttling to 3.70ghz.
I'll just keep testing.
OCCT:CPU for 5.2 and HCI
and then repeat all with HT

Merry Christmas everyone and especially you Nick. Big smile
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I prefer the Costanza SOB video. 

There's no hurt feeling here, I just can't hold your hand through the process.

I pushed you hard throughout all this to get mistakes and the corrections for them to seriously sink-in and also make sure anyone else reading what was happening would learn and not make the same mistakes that appeared to be continued and repeated.




I was saving the last blank hurt feelings report copy I have here so you could fill it out... You can make copies and file many multiple reports...  just make sure to list all the mean things and the reason why too.. LOL 









If you pass that 5.2 run then it is the best you are going to do other than work the cooling solution or the IHS and get the temps down. I can tell you no one was seeing 93c even at 5.2 with or without HT. 

Be that because they didn't have IHS distortions, didn't remove the TIM, run the H150i Pro, had large towers, have new (not fleabay old/used) new/or quiet/efficient high volume fans, had room ambient temps @ or below 78F.. all the recommendations I made along the way...     I don't know

That's the part you are going to have to figure out.


After that work the VID and don't forget to run the 3D load tests..   it may still all be unstable for all you know at this point.





Now...please go to bed, I have work to do. 


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CPU:OCCT passed at 5.2 HT=Off

I'll do the memtest overnight
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Leave the tree lights on.
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Originally posted by NickN NickN wrote:


I was saving the last blank hurt feelings report copy I have here so you could fill it out... You can make copies and file many multiple reports...  just make sure to list all the mean things and the reason why too.. LOL 




You guys crack me up LOL

Have a nice Christmas. 
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Passed Linpack 5.2 with HT=On LOL
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Originally posted by deviantdog deviantdog wrote:

You guys crack me up LOL

Have a nice Christmas. 


Merry Christmas  Beer


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Passed Linpack and CPU testing for 5.0, however during Linpack testing, my Realtime VCore was fluctuating around 1.208v and my Max VCore was around 1.296v. During CPU:OCCT Vcore Realtime was 1.243v and Vcore Max was 1.288v. Both above range, but are they within the "slightly higher or lower" range or should I adjust my VID?

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The ranges I posted were based on clock reports for all the systems that were tested. Just because you may see a bit of difference doesn't indicate a problem, simply could mean the voltage regulator modules in use are a different manufacture run of components. 


My suggestion around that is one of two:

  1. When working each clock setup for the first time go ahead and rework the VID down in offset voltage steps during OCCT:LIN 64 AVX and repeat till fail, then raise back to last successful run and confirm. Then roll that into OCCT:CPU and see it if passes. If it doesn't slightly raise offset till it passes, no need to rerun LIN. From that point run HCI Memtest. If HCI Memtest fails try raising VCCSA .01 first and if that fails set it back and raise offset a bit.

   2. Complete all of your load testing up through memory testing for each clock level, then go back and try working the VID down using offset the same way I outlined in #1. At this point you have established a stable 5.0/5.1 and if possible 5.2 but are simply looking to improve the temp/watt load. Reductions in offset will typically have far more influence on temps as speed increases.

The VID target is an area where we know the stability point for each clock level to locate them fairly quick but because of component changes in manufacturing there can be differences and therefore a fine tune of the VID may be required.


To speed things up you could try dropping offset by .005 at first and if that passes all the tests again I would say that would have a good influence on temps and watt load. If it doesn't pass then try a smaller amount like .003.

The behavior you are seeing is correct. System will display a lower real time Vcore during OCCT:LIN and higher real time Vcore during OCCT:CPU so it is working as outlined. 


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Great. Thank you for the clarification. I will follow these steps.
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Once you find the outlined VID that does not mean the chip wont run a lower VID and just because the target VID was correct and the lowest for say 5.0 doesn't mean the outline target VID is the lowest for say 5.1 or 5.2.

Those target VID's are to get you in the range and where you need to be as quickly as possible. From there your system and CPU may very well run a lower offset voltage..  in some cases may need a touch more offset voltage. 



Lets take the case of a golden sample or a real lottery winner (don't hold your breath LOL ). In a scenario where a CPU is loaded with top-tier core/cache across the board and a perfect manufacture run right up through IHS installation you could, in example, see that the VID for one or more clock levels successfully tests far lower than the outline target.

Lets say you locate the VID for 5.0 (1.315) and the offset to achieve that on your system is  [-]  0.025. Your system passes this offset with flying colors and then you start reducing offset by .005 which then makes the voltage [-]  0.030 and it passes again...

Then drop another .005 to [-] 0.035 and passes ..  lets say you did that a total of 6 times till it failed and then raised it back to drop #5 where it passed. That would mean your offset voltage is now [-]  0.050 and the VID would most likely be much lower than the outline target.

That could be an indicator that you have lottery winner. It would depend on where the stable VID sits at 5.2GHz if it may be possible to roll into 5.3 safely (or at least reasonably safe). In a case where a CPU is stable @ a VID of say 1.40-1.42 for 5.2GHz there is a good chance 5.3 may be possible because the chip is very stable at lower voltage.


The example above is just scratch-off pipe dream Big smile but could happen. It is the same mindset when applied to finding the lowest offset voltage for any target CPU speed. The target VID is to get you there as fast as possible, safe, and then go from there.

You may get a good drop in offset and run a lower VID which in turn will run a lower temp and watt load. Testers found successful offset drops as small as .003 from the target had a positive influence on temp and watt loads especially at higher clock speed.


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Originally posted by NickN NickN wrote:

Yea I think it might be time to back off on the mods till the box is built and all the components are singing together, then figure out any mods you may deem needed. 

If you are sure there is no blinky light software installed into Windows and booting you can now go back into the BIOS and change the following:

ONBOARD DEVICES
LEDS- 
When system is in working state [ALL ON]

But then this may appear right below it.. also make sure this is set to:

When system is in sleep, standbuy..  bla, bla, bla: [AURA OFF]

and leave the QLED on post code only

If the CPU at idle remains in a low state, then that gives you the pretty motherboard lights back without the hit. If the CPU is still being polled all the time then that wont work on your board... just shut it back off.

On my board I can set like that and there is no CPU hit.  With my board it comes down to making sure there is no Windows blinky light software installed or running anywhere. 




I am just reading here trying to see if I can learn something for a possible future build, so I hope you guys dont mind me asking something.

Nick, when you say that something like a LED (or any other service or hardware item) is not using any CPU cycles....what do you use to determine this?

Windows Task manager?
Third party software?

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Well, that's different. 

I didn't realize anyone was in a serious relationship where they feel like they are a gaslighted emotional victim.


Now listen Karen,

You do know that we were never going to take warm showers together and hold hands. I never lied to you about anything, never said I love you and never led you on. So please, wipe the mascara from your eyes, I am sure that burns and hurts <here's a tissue>...  put the gun down on the floor and step back from it before anyone gets hurt. 



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Originally posted by 777simmer 777simmer wrote:


I am just reading here trying to see if I can learn something for a possible future build, so I hope you guys don't mind me asking something.

Nick, when you say that something like a LED (or any other service or hardware item) is not using any CPU cycles....what do you use to determine this?

Windows Task manager?
Third party software?




I use 3rd party myself. There are different offerings but you must be sure they are designed to work with the platform and proc. 

In my case with z390 and 9700K Core Temp 1.15.1 works fine but that app may not work with z490 and 10900K

I don't trust the Windows task manager as far as I can throw it. LOL But I do occasionally back check using that too.

If you install any of those Asus or Aura light applications in Windows with the newer platforms, and I even think the Realtek sound drivers 'might' install some junk for disco lights too unless that is curtailed, you can see the CPU usage per the application or driver file in the Windows Task Manager in W10 under the 'details' tab and click the CPU column to place the CPU use files at the top of the list. 

It was obvious between the 3rd party and that list what disco light junk was hitting the CPU and the elimination of it when it was uninstalled or squashed. 


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I'll post video card clocking when and IF I believe it is something safe for public display and use. Right now it's too soon and there is testing/evaluation going on around it. The drivers are suspected as being coded to downclock due to the hardware that was shipped out and questions about stable cards on the market and later they may remove that changing how the card is clocked...  then there are issues with properly reading the memory clock where some of these applications are reading x8 higher than the actual memory clock speed.

So until such time as I think no one will blow their 800-2000 dollar video card into the junkpile within a year or two thinking they clocked it right and are top dog on 3DM scores.. I'm only working with a select few on that as I can due to my current availability for it.


If anyone here thinks there are landmines in a clearly written 1-2-3 simplistic CPU clocking guide you ain't seen nothin yet if you try to clock one of these card on your own without proper engineering guidance or take advice from some idiot gamer or hardware site on the internet about how to do it right with the 3x card right now.



So, if there are going to be anymore hissy fits... 


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To late gunnery sergeant! That browner Deviant already gave me the 3090 overclocking instructions that you where rubbing my nose in! Up yours sergeant! LOL

Oh and I got the Nuke codes of Donovan too! LOL

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But I didn't give you the update on numbers. Hopefully you figure it out on your own or that rig is likely to blow - if you haven't fried it already, that is...
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Originally posted by Avidean Avidean wrote:

To late gunnery sergeant! That browner Deviant already gave me the 3090 overclocking instructions that you where rubbing my nose in! Up yours sergeant! LOL

Oh and I got the Nuke codes of Donovan too! LOL









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Originally posted by deviantdog deviantdog wrote:

But I didn't give you the update on numbers. Hopefully you figure it out on your own or that rig is likely to blow - if you haven't fried it already, that is...

Oh, you sent him the first start-off list and not the 6 follow ups?  Oh my.



By the way, sorry about that again. Embarrassed



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Originally posted by Avidean Avidean wrote:

To late gunnery sergeant! That browner Deviant already gave me the 3090 overclocking instructions that you where rubbing my nose in! Up yours sergeant! LOL





You best be careful slick.. and this is no joke.



Han's just started getting back to me on some results in which I need to digest the data and make adjustments. We are seeing card manufacture differences appearing as well.

If all you got was the first list which I thought would be simplistic to start off with, be forewarned there were issues and a lot more communications after that so if you think you know what you're doing you go right ahead and do it.

There was a reason why you didn't get those from me and I am going to let find out on your own. Then we will see who's rubbing who's nose in it and who was protecting your smart arse by not giving you a loaded gun with the safety OFF and a hair trigger.


Ya know, if you would cut out the self destructing know-it-all crap I wont love you any more or less, but the wife sure as heck will. LOL I guarantee it!

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Come on you guys, I'm just stirring sh*t for kicks here. I haven't touched anything after completing testing on 5.2 HT=on with the 3090. I'm done. That's it!LOL
Come on Nick, you think after messing with my sig again I would fire back.
Man you guys can dish it out alright it.Tongue

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You were pissed off and you know it!  And you know why.

sig my arse!

Why don't you just change your sig yourself since you have a new system and its working? You going to leave it there for another round, or fix the thing?!! LOL







Yo! Donavan16....  who had January 10th in the pool this time. Not home and I don't have the sheet with me.


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Originally posted by Avidean Avidean wrote:

To late gunnery sergeant! That browner Deviant already gave me the 3090 overclocking instructions that you where rubbing my nose in! Up yours sergeant! LOL

Oh and I got the Nuke codes of Donovan too! LOL



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Ah man..  seems like every time I get comfortable with a good game

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Originally posted by Avidean Avidean wrote:

Oh and I got the Nuke codes of Donovan too! LOL


Oh, I'd say you've nuked enough hardware on your very own without any help from me.  If I were to have nuke codes I'm not sure I'd put them in your hands...  Nuke Wink
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Now that's funny and clever!LOL
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Realy clever ClapClap
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