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Topic: (Solved) Airbus Extended alway out of trim
Posted By: simbio
Subject: (Solved) Airbus Extended alway out of trim
Date Posted: July-16-2014 at 4:47pm
When I choose the Airbus Ext I always wait but it's never ready to take control, where the vertical speed always jump.
I use FSUIPC for all the axis as Direct to FSUIPC , only for the Airbus Ext is set to send to FS as normal -> AXIS and AXIS Throttle 1 Set same for two.
I also use other aircraft like the PMDG 737 and it works well apart some time.

So After reading your initial request I paste the log filr to let you check.
Load FSX choose C172 at an airport open FSIP choose runway and 8NM and move.
By the way thank's for the last update and foremost the landing score is really appreciated,
I hope that in a future update, we can archive those result and create a chart for progress.

Can you tell me what in real life are the vertical speed at touch down on average, after landed with 347 the report says it was Ok but I thought and read that it's bad for comfort?
Can you share a table or explain in the manual the standard that come in the score.

Thank you
Fabrizio

16.07 22:25:02   FSiPanel Started
16.07 22:25:02   FSiPanel version : 1.0.0.51
16.07 22:25:02   FSiPanel has administrator rights
16.07 22:25:04   ProcessClientOrder : Order = FSI@METAR@SET@GLOB 160737Z 35000KT CAVOK 15/05 Q1013@1@@1
16.07 22:25:06   PMDG737 : C:\FSX\PMDG\PMDG 737 NGX\PanelState
16.07 22:25:06   PMDG777 : C:\FSX\PMDG\PMDG 777X\PanelState
16.07 22:25:06   PMDG747 : C:\FSX\PMDG\747400\PanelState
16.07 22:25:06   PMDG Flight plan: C:\FSX\PMDG\FLIGHTPLANS
16.07 22:25:06   AES 320 panelstate folder: C:\Users\Pascucci\Documents\Aerosoft\AerosoftAirbusExtended
16.07 22:25:29   ProcessClientOrder : Order = FSI@MOVE@ILS@LSGG@05@@4600@0@10@0@0@3@0@DEFAULT
16.07 22:25:29   FSiPanel will now start the flight
16.07 22:25:30   LoadFlight Stage 400, filename : C:\Program Files (x86)\FSiPanel\FSiPanel\SituationFiles\Aerosoft32060tAirbusA320easyJetGEZTBFINAL.FLT
16.07 22:25:35   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:36   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:37   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:37   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:38   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:39   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:39   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:40   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:41   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:41   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:42   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:43   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:43   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:44   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:45   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:45   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:46   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:47   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:47   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:48   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:49   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:49   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:50   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:51   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:51   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:52   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:53   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
16.07 22:25:53   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:54   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:55   Initial Timer = 10696.239
16.07 22:25:55   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:56   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:57   Initial Elapsed Time : 10696.239 Actual : 10698.252
16.07 22:25:57   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:58   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:25:59   Initial Elapsed Time : 10696.239 Actual : 10700.264
16.07 22:25:59   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:00   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:01   Initial Elapsed Time : 10696.239 Actual : 10702.276
16.07 22:26:01   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:02   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:03   FSX is ready to fly!
16.07 22:26:03   LoadFlight Stage 22, FSX Ready
16.07 22:26:11   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:11   Initial Timer = 10712.651
16.07 22:26:12   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:13   Initial Elapsed Time : 10712.651 Actual : 10714.632
16.07 22:26:13   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:14   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:15   Initial Elapsed Time : 10712.651 Actual : 10716.644
16.07 22:26:15   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:17   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:17   Initial Elapsed Time : 10712.651 Actual : 10718.657
16.07 22:26:18   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:19   FSX not ready, waiting
16.07 22:26:19   FSX is ready to fly!
16.07 22:26:20   LoadFlight Stage 22, FSX Ready
16.07 22:26:20   Desired Pos : 46.1008224487305 5.90793609619141
16.07 22:26:20   Sim Act pos = 46.1008222222152 5.90793611111096
16.07 22:26:20   Position ok : Offset : 0
16.07 22:26:21   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:22   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:22   Initial Timer = 10722.791
16.07 22:26:23   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:24   Initial Elapsed Time : 10722.791 Actual : 10724.803
16.07 22:26:24   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:25   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:26   Initial Elapsed Time : 10722.791 Actual : 10726.8
16.07 22:26:26   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:27   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:28   Initial Elapsed Time : 10722.791 Actual : 10728.828
16.07 22:26:28   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:29   Waiting for FSX to be ready
16.07 22:26:30   FSX is ready to fly!
16.07 22:27:06   Ready to unfreeze, actual IAS = 113 Desired IAS = 134
16.07 22:27:06   Aircraft release for flight at : 7/16/2014 10:27:06 PM





Replies:
Posted By: J-P Garraio
Date Posted: July-20-2014 at 5:57am
Hi Fabrizio,
In which mode is your autothrust when FSIPANEL is trimming your aircraft?
Top left of your PFD, it should say: CLB.
J-P


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FSiPanel for FSX
www.fsipanel.com
Jean-Pierre Garraio


Posted By: simbio
Date Posted: July-20-2014 at 6:38am
I will check this in two weeks as I am off.
thanks for reply


Posted By: simbio
Date Posted: August-08-2014 at 7:28pm
Sorry for the delay, I have reinstalled the software to the latest version.
I created a setup for an airbus a320 and this is what it shows after lunch it.
Hope this help
http://postimg.org/image/tfc9eto6x/" rel="nofollow">


Posted By: J-P Garraio
Date Posted: August-11-2014 at 4:49pm
Hi,

Thanks for the picture.
It looks like your thrust lever is not at the correct position.

Start with your Thrust levers to IDLE.
When FSiPanel asks you to set CL (Climb thrust), move your thrust levers forward slowly until you get CLB as thrust mode on your PFD.

This should fix the problem.

Please let me know.

Safe flights,

J-P

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FSiPanel for FSX
www.fsipanel.com
Jean-Pierre Garraio


Posted By: simbio
Date Posted: August-16-2014 at 9:19am
Sorry to report that doesn't work.
My lever are in idle and I didn't touch them.
Thrust is controlled by FSIP I tried to move full and bring them to idle, FSIP bring TH to TOGA.




Posted By: J-P Garraio
Date Posted: August-16-2014 at 10:05am
If you look at this video:

http://youtu.be/aqux-RCzlSY" rel="nofollow - http://youtu.be/aqux-RCzlSY

Is the loading of your flight similar?

You should see the message on the top bar, not anymore in the middle of the screen as on this video.

if you look on the top left of the PFD, you see that autothrust is disconnected, no active mode.

When asked to move the TL to climb, you can see that Autothrust engages in SPEED mode.

In your case, even if the mode is TOGA LK, once the speed is above target speed, you should be able to reduce your thrust levers to CLIMB and autothrust should then revert to SPEED MODE.

J-P

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FSiPanel for FSX
www.fsipanel.com
Jean-Pierre Garraio


Posted By: J-P Garraio
Date Posted: August-16-2014 at 10:14am
Aerosoft Airbus seems to have problems with some joystick and thrust levers.

If you Google "Airbus X throttle problem", you will find a lot of information, this is probably the problem we're having.

If you position your airbus on ground with engines running, can you freely move your thrust levers to any positions? Do they stay at position or revert to IDLE?

Cheers,

J-P

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FSiPanel for FSX
www.fsipanel.com
Jean-Pierre Garraio


Posted By: simbio
Date Posted: August-17-2014 at 11:30am
Some time a go I had correctly setup FSUIPC to LUA Airbus THR1 instead  AXIS Throttle 1 Set but something have change it.
This is why the lever didn't works correctly, the only difference with your video is that I don't get the LUA message.
I had also to recreate a new profile for the airbus.
What now don't work is, I can get TAKE SNAPSHOT or LOAD SNAPSHOT they are all grayed (not available)
Is it possible to have a button in FSIP that even if the aircraft is not perfectly configured we can get control of it.
Tank's

PS can you tell me more on this request:

The landing score is really appreciated,
I hope that in a future update, we can archive those result and create a chart for progress.

Can you tell me what in real life are the vertical speed at touch down on average, after landed with 347 the report says it was Ok but I thought and read that it's bad for comfort?
Can you share a table or explain in the manual the standard that come in the score.


Posted By: J-P Garraio
Date Posted: August-19-2014 at 4:51am
Hi,

Happy to hear that your autothrust problem is solved.

Concerning the Airbus and Snapshot mode, it is not compatible.
Please check the compatibility table below from user manual and website.



Concerning the landing report:
Thanks for your input concerning the archive, I will try to implement it so that pilots can track their progression.

Concerning the touchdown rate of descent:

There isn't really any table, just some rules of thumbs.
< 300' per minute, Normal landing
300-600' per minute, positive landing, nothing wrong
>600' per minute, hard landing, inspection required before next flight.

I grade the landing based on my own experience and based on the above rule, your landing with 347 is a correct landing, nothing wrong with it.

For example, it is much more important to land within the touchdown zone, even with a 500' per minute ROD than making a long landing.

Landing in the touchdown zone is your main duty, if on top of that you do a kiss landing, this is only a BONUS.
Wish you safe flights,

J-P

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FSiPanel for FSX
www.fsipanel.com
Jean-Pierre Garraio


Posted By: simbio
Date Posted: August-19-2014 at 1:19pm
Tank's for the input.




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