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    Posted: May-25-2010 at 8:04pm

 

 PLEASE SEE THE NEXT POST FOR UPDATED PROFILES FOR BOTH FS9 AND FSX

NEW PROFILES ARE POSTED THAT CORRECT AA ISSUES WITH FS9 AS WELL AS
 
NEW PROFILES FOR 8xS, 8xQ, AND 16xS 
 
 
 
I reverse engineered the XML to binary code changes in the new Nvidia 257.15 drivers in which we can now enable all the FSX Nhancer settings for the GTX 470/480 cards without Nhancer installed

 

I will post the files needed and the instructions shortly however with the high quality Nhancer settings being enabled I can correctly evaluate the new 257.15 drivers and the GTX 480 card in FSX with Windows 7 and so far these are the BEST drivers I have ever seen if you have a 400 series card  Thumbs%20Up

 

BE AWARE there appears to be a driver bug related to FAN SPEED monitoring (fan speed control is fine, its the real time montior/graph that should be disabled) if these drivers are used with a GTX 260/275/280 or 285 card. If you have one of those cards and use any FAN MONITOR software such as EVGA Precision or MSI Afterburner, the software can cause STUTTERS due to polling the fan speed too much. In such software and with one of the mentioned cards you must disable the fan speed monitor (uncheck it in the properties/settings). This issue does not effect the 400 series cards.

 

As many of you have discoverd, Windows XPx64 is still bugged with the 400 series and anything other than FSX SP1. The 400 works fine with FSX SP1 and XPx64 but not with FSX RTM and SP2 or Acceleration, and Nvidia is looking at the issue as I reported in another thread

 

 

 

 

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 THIS POST HAS BEEN UPDATED

Special thanks to Jeff (V1_ROT8) for the FS9 profile sluthing
 
 
 
 
Nhancer 2.5.9 will not start/run with the 257.15 or the 257.21 drivers installed

Nhancer 2.6 is under development but for now, this is how to use the latest drivers

Here are the files and instructions to enable the Nhancer settings typically used to control image quality and shimmer in FS9 and FSX and get AA working right

NOTE:

This is for driver 257.15 and higher only! And will work for any Nvidia video card that is listed supported for these drivers but I mainly did this for the 400 series.

DO NOTE the 260/275/280/285 FAN/stutter issue I posted above!

Currently the 257.15 drivers are BETA and will not be WHQL till sometime in early June.

This is a temporary fix until Nhancer is updated to use the new Nvidia binary/hex system instead of the XML code they used in the past.

 

Remember, these are BETA DRIVERS and as such there may be issues with them not as of yet discovered

 W7 x64: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-257.15-beta.html

 W7 x32: http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-32bit-257.15-beta.html

 
Or you can use the WHQL release version 257.21
 
 
 
 
Note that there is not much difference in performance between the beta and WHQL however the WHQL versions fixed a Nvidia bug with high resolution and AA with Matrox TH2G setups and several other minor bugs.
 
 
You should really be a 64bit OS in this day and age and especially with FSX and modern hardware. This was tested on Windows 7 x64 as I do not use the 32bit version of the OS

After correctly installing the drivers...

 
1.
Download the following files:

Nvidia GForce SLI profile tool.exe for the 257.15 drivers or above

http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/fattach_get.php?p_sid=BARjmP*j&p_li=&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=&p_tbl=9&p_id=2625&p_created=1274701918&p_olh=0

 

Here are 3 profile zips. They are made for both FS9 and FSX and use the Override function. They are named based on the AA level they set.
 
 
http://gex.flight1.net/NVIDIA_Profiles_C8xS.zip   <----- This profile is what I use
 
 
 
Download and unzip the contents
 
 

2.
 RUN: the downloaded Geforce_SLI_Profile_Tool.exe

First step is to backup the original profiles so you can restore them at any time you wish. In Geforce_SLI_Profile_Tool select to EXPORT SLI PROFILES. Name the file NVIDIA Profiles Default.txt

Next, select IMPORT SLI PROFILES and browse the tool to the unzipped NVIDIA Profiles XXX.txt

Thats it! The tool will tell you: SUCCESS:
NVIDIA SLI profiles imported from XXXXX\NVIDIA_Profiles_CXxX.txt

===============================================
 
NOTE:
There are some reports that importing the profiles I posted results in a FAILURE message
 
I have tried to duplicate this issue here several times and can not get the import to fail. What ever is causing this problem its not wide-spread but it has been seen more than once
 
If you receive the FAIL message on profile import, do the following 
 
1. Save a copy of the EXPORTED profiles you made in a safe place, then open the original in notepad.
 
2. Open the profile you wish to import in notepad, on the EDIT menu, "SELECT ALL" and then right click, select to COPY the entire contents
 
3. Go to the EXPORTED original profiles you have open in notepad, on the EDIT menu, "SELECT ALL" and then right click and PASTE which will overwrite the original profiles with the copied version.
 
4. Save (close) the new edited exported profiles list and then import that file
 
=======================================================
 
 
Close the Geforce_SLI_Profile_Tool

If you wish to restore the original profiles, simply rerun the SLI profile tool and import the BACKUP you made.

 
Also, if you use other games you must set up their profiles manually because with this hack they will all follow the global profile in the CP unless you change the GAME profile to your specific needs. Altering other game profiles should not effect the global or FSX profile however as menitiond there are bugs in this new CP that Nvidia is working on to correct

 

3.

Open FS9/FSX. Go to the GRAPHICS SETTINGS tab. Make sure to set FILTERING to TRILINEAR
 
NOTE: With the new profiles posted above and the 257.21 WHQL release drivers the full override function now works. This means you should UNCHECK the AA box in FS9 and FSX.
 
 

You are now running the settings I post for Nhancer use and FSX in the FSX tuning thread. The settings will remove shimmering and present the best trade between performance and image quality in FSX.

 

IMPORTANT: I have ALTERED the profiles for 3DMARK06 and the FUTUREMARK VANTAGE benchmark programs with this edit to use the correct settings for benchmarking. There is a BUG in these drivers where the profiles for FSX and 3DMark may NOT show up under the "applications" tab. DONT worry about it, they work fine. Nvidia will need to address the issue of the profiles not showing up but they are set CORRECTLY.


How can you tell the Nhancer settings are working in FS9 and FSX? Simple.. you wont see autogen shimmer, at least not very much and if you bring up the SHIFT-Z data you will see this difference:

Without 8xS and poor filtering:


 

With 8xS and high quality/filtering:


Notice the text and how there is a drop shadow to the fonts with the Nhancer Combined 8xS setting applied. If you see that in your display then the settings I edited are WORKING. You will also notice the scenery is far sharper/defined and the autogen trees and most buildings are no longer shimmering

 

This is also why I dont need to expand the LOD radius to an outrageous value like a lot of people do. These settings clean things up in the draw distance. If I do boost it, 6.5 is more than enough and I rarely change that value from the default of 4.5.

Pure photoscenery is different and users should work with TBM 400 and unlike typical scenery with photoscenery you can also work with Fiber Frame Time Fraction values as Christian Buchner from Tile Proxy posted about to obtain clarity and in most cases with photocenery the scenery/autogen load is not as much of a problem as it is with textures and landclass so raising LOD Radius above 6.5 can work much better for pure photoscenery flying

 

 

 ENJOY!

 

 FSX tweaks..

 

I dont need any silly off the wall tweaks.. these are my FSX.cfg file edits:

[DISPLAY]

TEXTURE_BANDWIDTH_MULT=80-120

the 480 card loves TBM and honestly, you may not even need this edit. LESS in the FSX.cfg for tweaks is better when starting out. Always start with a CLEAN FSX.cfg file before beginning any tweak session;

http://www.simforums.com/forums/forum_posts.asp?TID=34902&PID=203025#203025

You may be surprised how many tweaks you dont need LOL


UPPER_FRAMERATE_LIMIT=30//   =30 for rural, =0 (unlimited) for urban or high load areas and big payware planes
WideViewAspect=True // for my 1920x1200 monitor


RUNWAY_LIGHTS_SURFACE_SCALAR=1.2
RUNWAY_LIGHTS_VASI_SCALAR=1.2
RUNWAY_LIGHTS_APPROACH_SCALAR=1.2
RUNWAY_LIGHTS_STROBE_SCALAR=1.0    // These are to change the airport lights for my personal halo.bmp edits


[Main]
HideInfoText=1
DisablePreload=1

[GRAPHICS]
HIGHMEMFIX=1  

NOTE: I HAVE FOUND some issues with this setting and certain payware with the setting "Launch Folder Windows in a Separate Process" flag set in Windows 7. As my W7 writeup states, DO NOT USE the folder option "Launch Folder Windows in a Separate Process" with this set in the FSX.cfg file


If you do not have texture corruption with payware aircraft in Windows 7 DO NOT USE HIGHMEMFIX !  Its not needed, period!
 

 

thats it, nothing else.. 

980x 4.43Ghz DDR3 2000 GTX 480 (stock speed)

YMMV

 

 

OTHER NOTES:

If you use the ENB MOD you may need to set FSX.exe to run in COMPATIBILITY MODE for WINDOWS XP SP3 or accessing menus with big payware may crash, REGARDLESS of HIGHMEMFIX=1 which actually may cause a crash with ENB running. This may fix that issue

Right Click the FSX desktop shortcut..  click the Compatibility tab.. set:

 

and click APPLY

Thats ONLY for ENB Mod/ FSX Menu crashes. This can reduce performance so if you dont need this change to avert ENB d39.dll crashes, dont do it!

 

Going back and forth to the desktop..

Best way to do this:

a. when switching to the desktop do not use any ALT or other key, simply hit the WINDOW button (may take one or two hits on the key to drop to desktop)

b. when going back to FSX, click the MSFS button on the taskbar, then hit the ENTER key

that should take you right back to FSX

 

 Here is another little tweak you can use to speed up/smooth visual panning however I dont know how this may effect the use of a device like TrackIR

1. Save a copy of the Cameras.cfg file which is found in the FSX.cfg directory as a backup

2. Open the Cameras.cfg file in notpad which is found in the FSX.cfg directory, scroll down and edit the following values (shown in bold below) into these lines:

 

[CameraDefinition.002]
Title = Virtual Cockpit

PitchPanRate=60
HeadingPanRate=100

[CameraDefinition.003]
Title = Spot

PitchPanRate=60
HeadingPanRate=100

[CameraDefinition.004]
Title = Locked Spot

PitchPanRate=60
HeadingPanRate=100

save and close the file. You should find panning much faster/smoother

 

to undo simply drop the backed up copy into the FSX.cfg directory and allow it to overwrite

 

Another little tidbit..   After moving to a 980x/480 system and clocking it, I have found under some circumstances such as flying over forests that setting the frame lock to 60 which matches the refresh rate of most LCDs had a smoothing effect without using bufferpools.

The 980x GTX 480 combo is a real winner in FSX

 

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Excellent Clap

I'm still using the GTX285, but I'm so impressed by your knowledge and technical skills Big%20smile

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Thanks for sharing Nick, will try the new drivers out!

Should nHancer be uninstalled before installing the nVidia tools and new drivers?
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Nhancer will not start with the 257.15 drivers installed and should make no difference but do make sure its not set to start with Windows

You can leave it installed so you do not have to reinstall it in case you wish to go back to the older WHQL drivers but if you decide to stay with these and later drivers you can uninstall it.

I will post a driver uninstall/reinstall routine sometime today. Since these are beta its probably best to take a few precautions when swapping drivers to be sure of ignition.. there are a few steps which include folders that may be left behind which should be deleted when changing them

 

These things are being addressed by Nvidia in future driver releases

 

The difference between these drivers and the 197.41/197.55/197.75 drivers is quite remarkable in FSX. It appears Nvidia has unleashed the beast

 

 

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Sounds great Nick, looking forward to try them!
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One other thing.. I have read a load of horse manure over the last few weeks about how the Nhancer settings and the Nv CP are the same and how Vsync should be turned off for performance in a single card system with pre-render..  thats FALSE

The Combined 8xS setting, which is the best of both worlds between 8x and SS without the perf loss, can not be obtained in the Nvidia CP unless Nvidia changes their access/design. The override AA flag is not working in the CP with FSX and very rarely has which is why Nhancer is needed to insure IQ and use of the video hardware.

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...and that Prerender setting in nHancer should be set to 3 is that correct?
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Yes..   leave it at 3. You should not need to change anything. When the profile is imported the settings in the image I show above should appear 'as shown'

 

I am looking at the profile bug where some profiles do not display right now to see if I can sort that one out. If I can I will post the changes but you should not need to access anything in that CP for the FSX profile

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Here are the lastest benchmark runs using this setup

 

 

 

 

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With a 280 and MSI Afterburner fan control disabled - what do you use for fan control?

 

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I did not say fan control ya old fart..   I said fan monitoring,,LOL  just dont monitor the fan speed in the readouts but I have not heard any problems with maintaining fan control.. you may want to check that yourself by running with the afterburner program disabled for a bit and see if you notice any change

Nvidia is aware of the problem

 

I cant say how well these drivers will work with the 200 series.. I have not tested them with a 285 as of yet

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Nick -

Thanks for all the work you've done (yet again) to produce this fix.

A question for you and/or others who are working with the new drivers: I've just completed the install per these instructions, and performance is spectacular.  The only problem - and it may be a dealbreaker - is that whenever I'm in FSX and produce certain control inputs - tap the brakes, (sometimes) move the joystick and (sometimes) use keyboard shortcuts (like "L" for lights), the FSX screen drops out and for a second or so I see either a black screen with an open FSX "loading" status box, or the desktop.  Then textures reload.  For an instant I see seat textures outside my windshield, then everything goes back to normal and the flight resumes.

Any idea what might be causing that?  I've tried turning FSX compatibility mode on and off, and using the suggestions for going in and out of windowed mode, without success.

I've noticed also that antialiasing isn't quite as good as it used to be - I get some jaggies in spot view and shimmering runway textures.

My system specs are below (they represent the system before I loaded these drivers, so disregard the old driver/NHancer information).  The only thing that's particularly exotic about the setup is my current arrangement for the TripleHead2Go.  Because of problems with the 197.41 driver, in order to get 5040 x 1050 resolution, I had to force it into the driver using the method suggested in the first message of this thread.  It works, but I'm wondering if it's related to these other problems.

Or it may be just something in the beta.  If necessary, I'll revert to 197.41 and wait for another revision of the new series.  But I thought I'd check first.

Thanks in advance!

 

Best,

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This sounds like it is directly related to being a beta driver problem for the resolution however what settings do you normally run in Nhancer when you use it in the past, exactly what I posted in the FSX tuning thread? If not what are the differences?

Do you make any changes to the Nv CP for multimonitor or do you run single monitor performance mode and if you make changes, what are those changes?

If you use the driver without the profiles I edited, does it do the same thing but just no AA? Restore the backup and see if the same black flicker comes up

What you are describing sounds like something is attempting to access one of the GUIs. One of the things about the 480 I noticed is when you try to access the graphics/scenery settings from within the game the 'load scene' progress window appears for a split second. I have seen that since I got the card and on all drivers.

I need to leave for some hours however when I get back I will look and see if there is anything I can try for you in the profile code. If I come up with something you can try it. If it does not work then you may need to wait for Nvidia to address the issue.. these are new drivers and as such I do expect about a 60 day dev cycle from them before the majority of the problems are addressed.

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One question Smile :

All your advises and technics work with the geForce 2XX series too ?

 

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Please read the 1st 2 posts. They explain this should work for any card the driver supports however with cards other than the 400 series fan monitor software may cause stutters due to a bug Nvidia is aware of and working on. I posted a workaround for that too

 

and I do not know if these drivers are better for the 200 series or not. I habe not tested them with a 285

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Thank Nick

Sorry. In fact, my question was about the efficency of these technics for the serie 2XXX.

I'll try it Smile

 

 

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Just tried the new drivers and everything works like a charm except for one thing, from time to time I get an all black screen and the sound also stops but this only lasts for maybe a second and then both the picture and the sound is back to normal.

Well...don't have time for more testing tonight, have a real 737NG to catch tomorrow morning so I need to get some sleep now Wink

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Originally posted by NickN NickN wrote:

 

 

This sounds like it is directly related to being a beta driver problem for the resolution however what settings do you normally run in Nhancer when you use it in the past, exactly what I posted in the FSX tuning thread? If not what are the differences?

Do you make any changes to the Nv CP for multimonitor or do you run single monitor performance mode and if you make changes, what are those changes?

If you use the driver without the profiles I edited, does it do the same thing but just no AA? Restore the backup and see if the same black flicker comes up

What you are describing sounds like something is attempting to access one of the GUIs. One of the things about the 480 I noticed is when you try to access the graphics/scenery settings from within the game the 'load scene' progress window appears for a split second. I have seen that since I got the card and on all drivers.

I need to leave for some hours however when I get back I will look and see if there is anything I can try for you in the profile code. If I come up with something you can try it. If it does not work then you may need to wait for Nvidia to address the issue.. these are new drivers and as such I do expect about a 60 day dev cycle from them before the majority of the problems are addressed.

 

Thanks, Nick.  To take your questions in order...

-- No changes to NHancer, I use your FSX tuning thread settings.

-- No changes to NV CP for multimonitor - it runs as a big single monitor in performance mode.  I bypass Matrox PowerDesk except for bezel management settings. 

-- I tried unloading your profiles and restoring the NVidia defaults: same results (except that, yes, AA was gone).  Still got the black pause (longer than a flicker).

Re: the GUI's - I'd seen that "load scene" flicker in my previous drivers (the 197.41's).  But it was only for an instant in that case - truly a flicker.  Here it's noticeably longer (1-2 seconds), happens after control or keyboard inputs, and seems to involve some sort of texture reload.

My 480 is an EVGA factory overclocked model (SC).  Am wondering if that might be an issue (in combination with beta drivers).

No rush for an answer - I'm out tonight too, and won't get back to this 'til late, or maybe even tomorrow.  Take your time.  And if I have to revert, that's OK.  Even if this driver doesn't work, it's nice to know that a better-performing one is on the way at some point.

Again, I appreciate all your help with this. 

 

Best,

Alan

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Originally posted by WebMaximus WebMaximus wrote:

Just tried the new drivers and everything works like a charm except for one thing, from time to time I get an all black screen and the sound also stops but this only lasts for maybe a second and then both the picture and the sound is back to normal.

Well...don't have time for more testing tonight, have a real 737NG to catch tomorrow morning so I need to get some sleep now Wink

That sounds broadly similar to what I've been experiencing.  Have a look at my posts in this thread and see if anything seems familiar.  The one thing I've noticed is that the black screens always happen immediately after a control or keyboard input.

Am standing by for Nick to see if he can suggest anything but thought I'd flag this for you in the meantime.

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I use TRackIR 4 with the TIR5 software and there are no issues that I can see using the Camera.cfg mods in the post above. It appears a tad smoother however.

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NickN,

Can you please create a profile with 8sQ for me.

I like the latest drivers but need 8sQ to avoid certain sceneries from shimmering.

Thanks a million.

Jose
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Nice work as always Nick!

May I ask, what screen res are you using?

Its been awhile since messing around with the driver LOD settings, but the NV driver guys used to have a formula for various neg LOD to AA ratios that would give you the max IQ per AA/AF that went something like this example for SSAA:

Neg LOD Bias should be -

-0.5 for 2x SSAA
-1.0 for 4x SSAA
-1,5 for 8x SSAA

These are a bit agressive for FSX autogen, I still use - 0.02 as its crisp but still without any shimmer, and then FSX LOD of 7.5-8.5

I get what your saying about LOD and 4.5-6.5 being best all-around. Works ok for me as long as I'm flying with some good autogen generic terrain texture based scenery.

But since I mostly fly Xtreme res photoreal I'm still a 7.5-8.5 LOD type of guy, 6.5 just doesn't cut it IMHO.

Again, really appreciate the effort and look forward to the 4XX card thanks to your hard work!

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Thanks for taking the time to come up with this.  I haven’t got my GTX 480 SC/980X setup put together yet (next week hopefully) but I gave this “hack” a try with the GTX 285/975X in the other tower and it works like a charm.

In addition I just copied the profile data from the FSX section into the FS2004 section along with another game that has transparency texture simmer and it works like a charm on them also.

Thanks again.

 

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Originally posted by DJJOSE DJJOSE wrote:

NickN,

Can you please create a profile with 8sQ for me.

I like the latest drivers but need 8sQ to avoid certain sceneries from shimmering.

Thanks a million.

Jose

 

Open my profile list you downloaded originally in notepad

click the menu EDIT then FIND

in the search box type exactly:    MS Flight Simulator X

click FIND NEXT. It should jump right to the FSX profile. Scroll down the profile list under the MS Flight Sim heading. About the 4th from the last entry you should see this value:

0x10d773d2 = 0x00000018 UserSpecified=true

change the 0x00000018 to 0x00000019

Go back to the EDIT - FIND search. in the box type:  Base Profile

NOTE: There is a listing for Base Profile at the top of the list, thats not what you want, you may need to move the search direction bullet to UP or DOWN and then click find next. Once you get to the Base Profile list, scroll down and locate this value

Setting ID_0x10d773d2 = 0x00000018 UserSpecified=true

change the 0x00000018 to 0x00000019

save and close the profile list. Then use the SLi Profile tool to load the new settings.

 

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Originally posted by PaulL01 PaulL01 wrote:

 

May I ask, what screen res are you using?

But since I mostly fly Xtreme res photoreal I'm still a 7.5-8.5 LOD type of guy, 6.5 just doesn't cut it IMHO.

 

I run 1920x1200

My suggestions are based on the default system, not photoscenery. In photoscenery it is best to set the TBM to 400, work with Fiber Frame Time Fraction too and some find the addition of MipBias=6 helps although TBM and FFTF is usually the key to photoscenery clarity. And since you are not dealing with a massive amount of autogen with photoscenery then raising LOD Radius can be done without the hard perf loss

 

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Originally posted by vic_baron vic_baron wrote:

I use TRackIR 4 with the TIR5 software and there are no issues that I can see using the Camera.cfg mods in the post above. It appears a tad smoother however.

W764/gTX280/197.15

 

 

Thanks Vic..   good to know it does not have issues with TrackIR

It will speed up panning using the keyboard or other assigned device, at least it should, but how fast is based on the frame lock too. If locked 24-30 it will be much more obvious than running unlimited

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Originally posted by Alan_A Alan_A wrote:

Am standing by for Nick to see if he can suggest anything but thought I'd flag this for you in the meantime.

I cant find anything here that would suggest this is something that can be changed based on a profile. More than likely you and WebMax have hit on some kind of hardware/software combination bug with the driver

What I would do, if you wish to try and debug, is remove all devices from the loop other than the keyboard and if you have any kind of "keyboard" software installed I would remove that too, then open the sim and RESET all the key functions to DEFAULT and test a flight

If the problem clears then there is something with your input devices/software causing it. If the problem remains then I would make sure its not a specific aircraft addon causing it by only flying a default plane and also disable any 'modules' such as FSUIPC, etc

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Originally posted by djt1 djt1 wrote:

Thanks for taking the time to come up with this.  I haven’t got my GTX 480 SC/980X setup put together yet (next week hopefully) but I gave this “hack” a try with the GTX 285/975X in the other tower and it works like a charm.

In addition I just copied the profile data from the FSX section into the FS2004 section along with another game that has transparency texture simmer and it works like a charm on them also.

Thanks again.

 

 

Yes, same settings can be ported to the FS9 profile.. I will add that to the profile list and upload it again so the link above has bot FS9 and FSX covered

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Originally posted by NickN NickN wrote:

Originally posted by DJJOSE DJJOSE wrote:

NickN, Can you please create a profile with 8sQ for me. I like the latest drivers but need 8sQ to avoid certain sceneries from shimmering. Thanks a million. Jose


 


Open my profile list you downloaded originally in notepad


click the menu EDIT then FIND


in the search box type exactly:    MS Flight Simulator X


click FIND NEXT. It should jump right to the FSX profile. Scroll down the profile list under the MS Flight Sim heading. About the 4th from the last entry you should see this value:


0x10d773d2 = 0x00000018 UserSpecified=true


change the 0x00000018 to 0x00000019


Go back to the EDIT - FIND search. in the box type:  Base Profile


NOTE: There is a listing for Base Profile at the top of the list, thats not what you want, you may need to move the search direction bullet to UP or DOWN and then click find next. Once you get to the Base Profile list, scroll down and locate this value


Setting ID_0x10d773d2 = 0x00000018 UserSpecified=true


change the 0x00000018 to 0x00000019


save and close the profile list. Then use the SLi Profile tool to load the new settings.


 



Thank you SIR!
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Originally posted by NickN NickN wrote:

Originally posted by Alan_A Alan_A wrote:

Am standing by for Nick to see if he can suggest anything but thought I'd flag this for you in the meantime.

I cant find anything here that would suggest this is something that can be changed based on a profile. More than likely you and WebMax have hit on some kind of hardware/software combination bug with the driver

What I would do, if you wish to try and debug, is remove all devices from the loop other than the keyboard and if you have any kind of "keyboard" software installed I would remove that too, then open the sim and RESET all the key functions to DEFAULT and test a flight

If the problem clears then there is something with your input devices/software causing it. If the problem remains then I would make sure its not a specific aircraft addon causing it by only flying a default plane and also disable any 'modules' such as FSUIPC, etc

Thanks, Nick, for looking into it.  I'll try the debug routine later on today and if I come up with anything interesting, I'll report back.  But my guess is it's going to have to wait for a revised and/or final version of the driver.  Will explore as work permits...

 

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OK, finally got to do some troubleshooting.  The short answer is that most of the problems resolved when I disabled the flight controllers and flew with keyboard and mouse.  But I still had the 1-2 second blackouts in response to keyboard commands.  Most of the commands that caused problems involved the use of the shift key.  I'd get the blackout when switching to last view or camera via shift-S or shift-A, but not when I switched to next view or camera via S or A.  This wasn't totally consistent.  I got the blackout the first time I called up the flight data/framerate via shift-Z, but once it had loaded, I was able to use shift-Z with no problems.  Shift-S and shift-A, however, always caused the blackout.

All my hardware is Logitech (I use the illuminated wired keyboard) but none of it is running through Logitech software - everything is connected directly through Windows.

I guess at this point I'm going to have to step back to the 197's and wait for a more refined version.

Newbie question - is there a mechanism for reporting beta results to NVidia?  I've posted in their forum but was wondering if there's a more direct feedback mechanism.

Thanks again for all the guidance.

 

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Ok thats what I thought.. there is some kind of input device conflict going on. I too use a Logitech backlit keyboard but not the gaming model, I use the ultrathin http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Illuminated-Ultrathin-Keyboard-Backlighting/dp/tech-data/B001F51G16/ref=de_a_smtd/192-3005540-0485236

But this does bring up an interesting possibility with XPx64 because this 257 driver would cause 2 of my systems to bog down horribly in WindowsXP x64 with normal operation and I had to revert back to the 197.55 driver in XPx64 which Nvidia said they could not duplicate the issue.

As for reporting.. unless you have started a full-on chat session with their customer support  http://nvidia.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/nvidia.cfg/php/enduser/chat.php?p_sid=AxZEQ_*j&p_accessibility=0&p_redirect=  and they refer you to a level 2 technician the only way to report issues is in their forum and they do read that forum

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?s=9da989a2ad30afefc30643dfdd71b52c&showtopic=169467

So given this, I am going to now try some things with the 2 XPx64 systems here to see if there is some kind of conflict between the Logitech USB keyboard/trackballs I use and the Nvidia card/drivers in XPx64

None the less, even if I find that is true, the deal would be a Nvidia/Logitech issue and would require those two figure it out and get their act together.

 

If you have another keyboard laying around that is not logitech I would suggest you try swapping it out and see what happens

 

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Alan

I found a problem in XPx64 related to the 251.57 driver and the setting "Enable Write Combine" in the troubleshoot section of the graphics properties. Unfortunately there does not appear to be access to those same settings in Windows 7 under the Screen Resolution - ADVANCED - Troubleshoot tab

 

So I shot off a message to Nvidia people about this. If the hardware acceleration slider and other features like that were available I was going to suggest you uncheck any "Write Combine" (that may not be used in W7) feature and perhaps also drop the hardware acceleration slider down 2-3 notches and recheck, but if that is not available on your end either then there is nothing I can suggest past waiting for the WHQL release and re-try in which they may have fixed bugs in the BETA

 

 

 

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Unfortunately the "change settings" button on my Troubleshoot tab is grayed out - I have no access to any of the settings.  So I guess I'll step back to the 197's (might try the .75's since I'm changing drivers anyway) and wait for the WHQL.

I'll post in that NVidia forum thread - I'd posted somewhere in their gaming section, but the one you linked to should get more attention.

Thanks again for your help.

By the way, for whatever it's worth, I use the same keyboard you do - have it on all my computers.  Best keyboard I've ever worked with.

Going back to other challenges now, like trying to start the A2A B-17...

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Is it me or the FPS limiter will not work with this driver?

Can somebody come back to me with an answer? The FPS limiter show up when I open FSX with it like it suppose to be but the frame rate is not locked at 30...frame rate goes behind 30...??

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The ENB mod and the FPS Limter do not work together. If you are using the ENB mod, remove the DLL and the ini file from the FSX folder and the frame limiter should work although its still possible to see the frames kick a touch higher and bounce around a little.

the d3d9.dll from the ENB mod prohibits the d9.dll from the FPS limiter from functioning correctly

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Originally posted by NickN NickN wrote:

 

 

The ENB mod and the FPS Limter do not work together. If you are using the ENB mod, remove the DLL and the ini file from the FSX folder and the frame limiter should work although its still possible to see the frames kick a touch higher and bounce around a little.

the d3d9.dll from the ENB mod prohibits the d9.dll from the FPS limiter from functioning correctly

I did not installed the ENB mod, my frame rate was locked at 30 but the FSX frame rate counter goes up to 40 ish + sometimes.....did you try the FPS limiter by itself to confirm it does work with this driver?

 

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Its working if you are set to unlimited and it not in a large urban area and it just bounces around a bit. If it wasnt working the FPS in a small rural area would be far higher than 40ish if set to unlimted

I dont use it but tried it here to see.. did the same thing, bounced a bit hitting the 40's sometimes, but without it I would see nearly 100 set to unlimited

 

and this is a BETA driver made for the 400 series card.. I wouldnt expect to see a lot if you are not running a GTX 400 series card and being beta, there are bugs

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As you know I will be building a new rig with the 980X and a 480 card so what is the biggest improvement you saw in FSX with this combo and what else did you see beside the biggest improvement.....

 

I'm curious since I'm gonna spend well over $2,000.00 just for the mobo cpu and card....should I get an SSD or the raptor still good to go?

 

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