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rennman View Drop Down
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Of course. New simulators are built more for future hardware...May I ask, how did you get a 5.3ghz? The company I'm working with (Ironside) doesn't seem to offer anything over a 3.9.
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Originally posted by rennman rennman wrote:

Of course. New simulators are built more for future hardware...May I ask, how did you get a 5.3ghz? The company I'm working with (Ironside) doesn't seem to offer anything over a 3.9.


Getting the mechanical stuff right is a prerequisite. I.e. the right CPU cooler, the right case, the right Thermal compound. Putting it all together with care and precision. I my case I lapped both the IHS and cooler to a 3000 grit copper finish and assembled the whole thing using Coolaboratories Liquid Pro. I also replaced the TIM in the CPU which requires Deliding on a 8700K (not 9 series though). Getting the best possible thermal conductivity away from the CPU and being lucky enough to win the silicon lottery is the first step. If that doesn't pan out none of the other good stuff is going to happen. It's a step by step process. If you are going to do your own build take one step at a time with an eye as you go on what the next one is and an outline plan that includes all the parts you are going to use. There is a lot of expertise available online but like everything else a lot of the experts are not experts and the even the real experts don't agree on everything. So you have to make a decision on who's lead to follow. I'm not an expert in anything.LOL This system was not my first rodeo or may second or my third or forth. I've put together quite a few. Like anything else you get better at it. Much of it is above my head. I'm not a numbers guy. With this system I found a set of recommended bios base setting from a reliable source and pushed for 5.3ghz from there which was my target. I got some pointer on voltages to trim. Its all nice and stable and cool now after working on it for a while.  In 3DMark this system scores in the top 3 percent. It took quite a bit of work and patience to achieve that not to mention luck but if the best a system builder can offer you is 3.9ghz then you might as well buy the parts and do it yourself. A blindfolded monkey could achieve that.
i7 8086K @5.3ghz, Asus Maximus X Apex, GSkill DDR4 2 x 8GB 4400mhz 18-19-19, 2080ti, 3 x 1TB Samsung 970 Plus
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote rennman Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 hours 49 minutes ago at 6:47am
Thanks for this information. I admit that I'm hearing some of these terms for the first time!
But at the least, the liquid/air cooling dilemma is now solved for me!

Also, this is what Ironside said about the CPU...

"...the Intel i5-9600K runs at 3.7 GHz base, meaning it will run ~3.7 GHz or less while idle or under minimal load and can go up to 4.6GHz when it needs the extra power! The processor will eventually drop its clock speed from that 4.6 GHz to something lower once it no longer needs the extra power, or it gets too hot. This is all in place to help maintain a healthy temperature with your processor and save a lot of power by not having it maxed out when it doesn't need to be."
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Getting to 5.3 stable is not something simple or easy to achieve. I use the word 'stable' because many do it and are not stable at that speed because they do not know what they are doing or how to verify the stability. They see that number, the system isn't blue-screening or crashing and they assume they are fine. Instead they experience all sorts of strange issue they equate to the sim instead of the stability of the clock.
 
It takes a very specific methodology in hardware selection and construction as well as a knowledge of setup and testing to do it safe, stable and correctly.
 
 
I run a 9700K @ 5.2GHZ 24/7 on all 8 physical cores with zero drop in CPU speed from that regardless of load, ever. Although the way I clock I use variable CPU voltage based on load, … I do not use the automated speed reduction systems because those can also cause strange performance problems.
 
 
Honestly, there are very few in the public industry that can or are even willing to build a system and clock it like that for 'sale' because once it leaves their hands they know the person purchasing the system has no idea what they are doing should something go wrong or come up.
 
 
So with system builders you must take what you can get, but one thing they will do is go cheap on things like memory speed/timing and charge the client a huge markup. Just because they might offer DDR4 4000 doesn't mean its worth it if the timing of that memory makes it no faster than DDR4 3200.
 
 
 
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