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    Posted: January-13-2020 at 11:01am
Almost complete my new pc build. I settled to go with another company as they tried to rip me off adding 60-100 on components that i can get way less on Scan, overclockers etc

The new company has offered a better competitive price so i have settled with them and they will assemble my machine 60 quid.

Nick I couldn’t get that memory you advised me on they said -

Sadly I am unable to find any stock of the G.Skill Trident Z Royal. There are other options, but nothing with those timings, unfortunately. What do you think of PVS416G400C9K? We can get two kits of that for £207.


What do you think of this timing?

You may or may not reply but believe it or not i have started reading about PC hardware basics etc and in no way was it my intention to annoy you. 


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You are going the wrong way again.
 
You cant get it in Europe? Then buy it from the USA and pay the import price. You wanna play with big boys on the right hardware, you gotta pay one way or the other.
 
There is no way around it. 
 
If you can't find DDR4 4000 @ C17-17-17 then look for DDR4 3200 to 3600 @ C14-14-14 - C16-16-16
 
There is nothing else I can do to help.
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This is listed at Amazon UK.
 
16GB DDR4 3600 C16-16-16
 
 
 You are lowering the timing (17 to 16 which is faster) for 400MHz in speed (DDR4 4000 to DDR4 3600 which is slower). That's OK. It balances out.
 
 
 I wouldn't do it myself but if you want to try and save money look for DDR4 3200 C14-14-14
 
 
DDR4 is better @ higher speed assuming the timing is good so I would take DDR4 4000-4266 @ C17-17-17 but that costs money and the higher the memory amount the more difficult to clock stable. I know what I am doing too.
 
@ DDR4 3200 you are dropping the timing from 17 to 14, (far faster timing), but also dropping the speed 800-1000Mhz which is slower. There is a give and take and although the speed drop is present and cant be overcome the lower timing helps considerably @ a far lower cost.
 
That doesn't mean DDR4 3200 C14-14-14 is just as fast as DDR4 3600-4266 C16-C17. That will never happen. It simply means its a far lower cost option with a lower performance impact that is not a complete rip-off.
 
 
The Patriot Viper Steel Series listing from what I saw is a ripoff. They list the timings for the BASE TIMING of the memory (which is far lower), and not the RATED TIMING @ SPEED which is higher
 
 
 
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This is listed at Amazon UK    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Trident-DDR4-4000-MHz-Memory-Module-Modules/dp/B078WT3G41/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=DDR4%2B4000%2BC17&qid=1578979950&sr=8-1&th=1
 
F4-4000C17Q-32GTZR - according to GSkill that is the 32GB DDR4 4000 C-17-17-17 https://www.gskill.com/search?keywords=f4-4000c17q-32gtzr
 
 
Here is the DDR4 4266 @ 32GB C17-17-17
 
 
 
Don't tell me you can't get this stuff in Europe. I found it
 
 
Be aware as my clocking outline pointed out 7 years ago, the higher the memory speed and the more memory installed, the lower the stable clock. So if you want 32GB you might want to consider keeping it below DDR4 4000 @ 3600 C16-16-16 and take the more stable higher CPU speed.
 
and make sure the builder is CLOCKING ALL CPU CORES EQUALLY and not clocking just 1-3. That's another trick they pull.
 
 
Over and out.
 
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