LCC GamePad Controller

Opus Software wrote: Not really.   Use LC to create your VC camera views as usual for they allow you to jump or transition to known view points such as the Captains seat, First Officers seat, or view the overhead panel etc..   Use the LCC to make adhoc adjustments or move the eye around the cockpit or the exterior. The LCC 'Set Camera' function can also be used to associate the current eye point offset with the current camera view; automatically setting the same offset each time the camera view is selected on the display. Hence, LCC and the 'Set Camera' function provide a simple means to overcome the annoying FSX axis shifts for your current flight.   Just don't assign a key, button, or axis to do more than one thing within the sim or within OpusFSX.   Stephen

Hi Guys, I am exploring the LCC function.

I have created several views for my favourite airplanes with OPUS Live Camera. These views are selected by buttons on my PS3 that call a key combo via FSUIPC.

Would that camera shift, mentioned above, not be corrected as well by just reselcting my view with a simple click on the respective PS3 button?

If not, what does LCC do different?

I use TrackIR as well. So usually I select the LC created view (like FO or Capt) and then with TrackIR I just look around.
Can LCC still be of use to me if I already use TrackIR also?


Also, it says in the OPUS FSI User guide that I have to enable my PS3 controller in FSX if I want to use it for LCC.
Is there no other way, like linking my PS3 buttons to key combos via FSUIPC so that the LCC commands are given?
(in the same way I use FSUIPC to select LC views with my PS3)


Note: I really cant enable controllers in FSX. Because every now and then FSX will auto assign the default assignments for every switch on my system. This will in turn mess with all my FSUIPC commands and I really need FSUIPC to control my home build throttle!

Here is our link,

http://www.opussoftware.co.uk/opusfsi/opusfsi_user2.htm#Game%20Controllers

I can only advise my own set up and cannot advise on any other use or setup using any other package.

Stephen :-)

Hello Rob,

Do you control these changes to FSX default assignments?
I mean, do you know the reason why this happens.
I know for example that if you plug in and out your JS and/or Game pad Controller(s) FSX is reassigning the defaults in its Standard.XML file.

(Username>Appdata>Roaming>Microsoft>FSX>Controls>Staandard.XML).

That's why I always have copy of this file to avoid to go through all this reassigning again.

Let me know if you need info abt this.

Joop / GCLP

Of course you will not be able to use a controller for LCC or camera use unless it is enabled within the controller list within the simulators control settings (you do not need to assign any functions to its buttons, switches, axes etc.).

OpusFSX and OpusFSI, apart from reading the LCC axes on a dedicated controller, will only respond to button and key events generated through SimConnect by the simulator. So no controller in the sim means no button events from that controller.

You should have absolutely no problem if you leave a controller plugged in to the same USB port with both FSX and P3D. I have four controllers (joysticks, throttle, yoke, and pedals) also a dedicated Sony DualShock 3 Gamepad controller, all enabled in the simulator.

Stephen :-)

Sorry Stephen, our posts crossed each other; you were faster (as usual)

Joop

I have started experimenting with LCC.

Ok great :-)

I am coming along nicely with LCC.

Thx Stephen, I see what you mean.
You are correct, the buttons are not recognized.

Of course I always use Live Camera for ALL my view sets. That way I can always select and transition between my favourite views. I also use Panning Sequences.

I use LCC as intended, to supplement Live Camera and make ad hoc or temporary adjustments to views or simply roam about the cockpit or aircraft in an external view.

Live Camera is also essential as its LC (and not LCC) that provides the basis for all turbulence and other DHM.

LCC is not intended to replace LC, and should never be used that way, it should only only supplement it.

Stephen :-)

disregard

hello,

Is anyone using the Logitech F 310 USB gamepad for Live Camera Control? I went through all the setup instructions in detail, and got it to work just fine. Problem is that when I came back to use it again a few days and reboots later, it did not show up in Spy, did not work, and showed up in FSX though. All of the needed joystick assignments I had made to the controller to make it work with Live Camera  had been overwritten by FSX with the default gamepad joystick assignments, that I had previously deleted, as if the controller had never been seen before by FSX.

Thanks Stephen. I have my Saitek controllers plugged directly to computer and thank God the settings were never overwritten when I disconnected them, but maybe  with the chained USB hub FSX got confused about where the controller was coming from. I will set the F 310  back up, connect it directly to a computer USB port, and use that port only.Should be easy since I have a copy of all the settings. That is scary to think my Saitek controllers could be defaulted back  by FSX given the hours it took me to do all of the custom button assignments, axes etc.

Hi Robert,

Firstly, NO opus views or operation preclude you from using the standard hat switch or even mouse panning. I use hat switch panning all the time with both opus VC camera views and External Aircraft camera views. As the LC manual says, all you need do is simply press the assigned button for the current view to re-centre it !

Secondly, the LCC is an additional feature which does allow you to use a 6-axis gamepad controller. Usually this is dedicated for LCC use and the manual describes quite clearly how this is done with clear examples showing my own set up with a Sony Dualshock controller.

Of course, the use of a controller is going to involve assigning and using the two thumb stick controls to move the eye point about. You will have to read the manual and set your sensitivity to achieve what you desire with these controls.

On the other hand, the panning sequences are something entirely different. Here you can configure in set positions and the software provides a smooth panning from one point to another. Adjusting the 6DOF automatically to try and provide a smooth and sensible panning from one point to the next. If you want to achieve something similar using a gamepad controller dedicated to LCC use then you will just have to practice using the two thumb sticks and moving the eye point about smoothly. The limitations are with the control inputs, human anatomy and skill. The limitations are nothing to do with opus or the software.

So in summary. You have two methods available to you. Use them as you see fit and wisely and you will be able to achieve whatever you wish. Panning Sequences can be used to create fly by shots or walk around shots (I may soon allow some simple form of pause and resume actions). The LCC controller on the other hand allows completely ad hoc changes or movements to be made. Roaming around the cockpit in VC views or the outside when used for external views.

All you have to do is set up and configure/enable opus to use your controller. Configure your own Panning Sequences etc.. Opus simply provides the tools, it's down to you to do the rest. Panning Sequennces for pre defined actions, the LCC controller (or standard hat switch or mouse panning) for other ad hoc actions.

Stephen :-)

I will double check my controller but you should be able to move around pretty well just using the two thumb switches. Not sure if they can be compared directly to the usual hat switch you find on a joystick. I will have to check the limitations of the thumb switches on my Sony Dualshock 3 controller.

The hat switch does achieve something different of course as the eye point is really fixed and only the 3DOF PBY parameters are adjusted. The controller is providing full 6DOF control hence the eye points XYZ can also be changed.

Stephen :-)

I understand. I use a 'Cirrus' model PFC Yoke (they are great).