![]() |
Flight Planning Assistance |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 123 5> |
Author | |
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Posted: December-02-2012 at 3:28am |
Hi All
Seeing as we are just about to start a new phase of beta development involving improving the GRIB forecast data and procedures for one thing. I though it was time to get some ideas from you high flyers and long haulers, and low level guys as well I suppose (and galls, don't want Cheryl to think she is all alone in this), regarding what flight planning assistance you would want to see added to OpusFSX. Please remember we do not necessarily want to re-invent the wheel so to speak, there are some very good planners out there and some more soon to be released. But if there are some basic facilities you would like to see added to assist your flying then please express your wishes here. Best Regards Stephen (and Cheryl)
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
GAJ52 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: December-14-2004 Location: United Kingdom Points: 174 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
One I think is a must, is fairly accurate high level 'average' winds for a given route, so we can enter this figure in the FMC for aircraft like the PMDG 737NGX and upcoming B777.
Glen
|
|
![]() |
|
Hangar34 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: September-24-2012 Points: 368 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Is there any way, based on wind direction at a destination airport, to provide an entry in the destination weather report that states the current runway in use?
I know this can be worked out manually using an airfield layout chart and knowing the wind direction, but it would go some way to simulating a conversation on approach with basic ground to air comms at the smaller aerodromes. |
|
![]() |
|
borgfan ![]() Intermediate Group ![]() Joined: August-18-2010 Points: 42 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
For starts,
Given a FSX flight plan: - Average wind direction and speed for route - average wind component for route - average temperature for route additionally would be be nice to - provide wind details and temperature for each waypoint at intervals of 2000' or so ( flight plans dont contain altitudes for each waypoint I think?) - for destination airport, give wind component to help select appropriate runway Thanks |
|
![]() |
|
lpf20011 ![]() New Member ![]() Joined: October-23-2012 Points: 1 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Felt the need to contribute here.
I used to use F.O.C 2003 for my planning (currently waiting for pfpx release) and that would provide me with forecast winds for my route and each waypoint. As a mainly long haul flyer I wouldn't be looking to use opus in any planning capacity. All I require out of it is that it displays reasonably accurate weather conditions outside of my aircraft wherever I am. Cheers Tim |
|
![]() |
|
jordanal ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: September-03-2006 Location: KMLB Points: 187 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Starting a PMDG NGX flight at departure gate (knowing my initial cruise ALT), I need:
FL average wind direction, speed, and aloft temp for the route - it would be nice to somehow lookup the same aloft info for each waypout in FP (makes FMC more accurrate before departure as well. Somewhere well before the planned Top of Descent (TOD), i need Forecast Descent info (dir / spd) for ALT's 6K, 9k, 12k, 18k, 24k, 30k, 34k, ~40k, all based on current arrival aloft info. Also need the current inHg at 18K if available. The earlier this info provided in the flight, the better.
|
|
Al Jordan
FSX Rig: i7 2600k, 4.8GHz / Asus P8Z68-V Pro / Mushkin DDR3-1600 8GB / EVGA GTX 570 GPU / TX850 PSU / Graphite 600T Case |
|
![]() |
|
Fede ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-15-2008 Location: Milan Points: 133 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Same as Borgfan says, but I'd like to get the METAR's and possibily the TAF's for the origin destination and alternate(s). Wind at destination is no big deal at the start of a flight, it might change along the route, especially if you're a long hauler, but a TAF on the other hand is very helpful.
Cheers Fede |
|
![]() |
|
SkipperMac ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-05-2011 Location: UK Points: 195 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
... except that at the smaller aerodromes (love that "old fashioned" term) there may not be anyone on the ground to simulate a conversation with... Therefore I would actually be against this idea, much preferring to overfly and try to see the windsocks ... As real as it gets with no cheating? ;-) PS: I often find myself laughing at you long haul guys and gals and your demands for total knowledge of the weather enroute. Talk about control freaks! lol. On the other side of things, as a low and slow bod, I love nothing better than a change in the hoped-for weather that makes me deviate from my "plan" and find a way past that horrible dark monster of low cloud. Horses for courses I guess. But it means I don't want to see Opus adding too many aids - stick with inputting the most accurate real weather which like real weather is often frustratingly unpredictable. |
|
SkipperMac aka Norman
i7 2600k @ 3.5GHz | Asus P8P67Pro | 8GB DDR3 RAM | nVidia 9800GTX+ 512 MB | 2 x 500GB Samsung SpinPoint F3 HDD |
|
![]() |
|
Koyaan ![]() New Member ![]() Joined: November-02-2009 Points: 10 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A key or combo to have the OPUS weather forecast pop up in FSX (so without having to go in the menu)
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
JRBarrett ![]() New Member ![]() Joined: May-26-2008 Location: United States Points: 31 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Apart from Opus itself, if you have either an Android or Iphone smartphone, I can heartily recommend the Foreflight app for accurate weather reports worldwide. The phone app is completely free for either platform. Though it is optimized for use in the U.S., you can enter the airport identifier for ANY airport, and get the current METAR, TAF and (most importantly) model forecast upper winds for that location. Now that Opus has r/w upper wind support, I can use Foreflight to quickly determine the upper winds near my destination for filling out the descent forecast pages in the NGX or other high-end add-ons that support that function. Jim Barrett |
|
![]() |
|
mcubine ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: September-28-2012 Location: Tampa FL Points: 128 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I would like to be able to import a flightplan into LWE in the .pln format and have a report displayed that could be printed and the report would show the wind direction, wind speed, and SAT for for each waypoint of the plan at altitudes of 6000, 18000, FL240, FL300, FL340. FL360, and FL380. The most waypoints I have had in a plan was 91 from Bangkok to Helsinki.
Michael Cubine
|
|
Michael Cubine, I7-2700K 4.6 GHz, 8 GB G.Skill RipJaws 1866MHz, GTX 580X 3072MB, ASRock Z68G.ProfessionalGen3 MOB, ASUS 27"LED, Windows7 64bit
|
|
![]() |
|
Alec246 ![]() Intermediate Group ![]() Joined: February-28-2011 Points: 94 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Just don't forget what is so great about Opus, instant weather, simple Menus, Report Window inside FS. No one wants to deal with that stuff that other developers do that loads outside the sim, but when it connects to it to place your plane in the map, it take ages to update, man, that thing is a nightmare!! Let the Flight Planning Serious stuff to PFPX, it's going to be amazing, what we need is Wind Aloft, Temperature, Metar of Destination and Alternate, every other information I think is going to go outside the scope of Opus.
Plus, Average Wind would require you to accept users own Routes, and that would mean a database for the Navaids, I like to think Opus is just like real Weather, it's there, it doesn't tell you how things are going to be, for that you check the METAR, the Wind Charts, the SIGWX. My opinion. |
|
![]() |
|
JRBarrett ![]() New Member ![]() Joined: May-26-2008 Location: United States Points: 31 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I agree, I think that the "other" weather engine has grown into a monster in its attempt to be "all things to all people". Weather generation, flight planning, pireps, cloud graphics etc. all in one package.... too much bloat and performance hit for my taste. Would rather have a lean and mean app like Opus that focuses on weather injection. For years I used FOC to do my preflight planning. With current nav data and winds aloft import, plus very accurate aircraft performance tables, it was miles ahead of every other planner in its accuracy. Unfortunately, the nav data updates came to an end over three years ago, and the developers seem to have dropped completely out of sight, so it is now useless. But PFPX looks like it is getting VERY close to release, and looks to be a game changer. It will make the perfect companion to Opus. Given a departure and destination airport, it shouldn't be too hard for Stephen to use the downloaded GRIB winds to come up,with an enroute average speed and direction based on the great circle path between aiports, but for my own taste, I don't know if doing complete flightplan imports is really necessary. |
|
![]() |
|
ukflight ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: September-29-2002 Location: EGNX Points: 128 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I also used FOC and had to pass on it when airac updates stopped. I find it amazing that Aerosoft is still selling it and is quite blasé about there being no updates.
As for Opus I would prefer to see, as others have intimated, it remain basically what it started out to be which is a top-notch weather suite. I mainly use FSC for planning now and will wait to see what sort of reception PFPX gets (and the cost of it). As a pensioner I am very choosy as to who shares my small pot of gold.
|
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
acko52 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: November-09-2010 Location: australia Points: 103 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
"K"I"S"Stephen"
jeff
|
|
new to fsx & computers have flown a few a/craft but not a pilot Intel I7 2670QM (2.2/3.1 GHZ 1333 MHZ FSB 6MB L3 cache) HM65 chipset W7 hp 64 bit *GB mem DDR 3 ( 4GB + 4GB ) 1333 MHZ Nvidia ge 540m 2G
|
|
![]() |
|
simbio ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: November-02-2006 Location: Italy Points: 130 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Maybe if you can tell as what is your goal on future development for GRIB would be a starting point. As you said there are many flight planner and they are really great in this aspect like EFB from Aivlasoft or Fskeeper just to mention some and the upcoming PPFX. So first, I think you should contact those developer to let those software communicate with Opusfsx so they can read all GRIB data. Then I really would like a search method for aloft/temp for a particular waypoint but at the given altitude so the average is done by Opusfsx. A decoded metar (hpa+inHg) for requested airports of course updated at current time. I wold also develop an app for tablet or smartphone that relay with opusfsx for such information maybe is too early but i think there a lot of people that have those device. Thank' for listen |
|
![]() |
|
electric man ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: November-22-2012 Location: Thailand Points: 470 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I use FSbuild for flight planning so it would be nice if Opus could work together with that or if a possibility would exist to download the winds aloft and metar data from departure airport before FSX is opent so we could use the data to fill in the flightplan from FS build.
|
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for all the ideas so far, we will look into it in more depth in the new year.
Regards Cheryl
|
|
![]() |
|
ianbeggs ![]() Intermediate Group ![]() Joined: September-08-2007 Location: Canada Points: 60 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Took the words outta my mouth :)
|
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
That is definitely going to happen
![]() We have that on the A List (option to manually assign a button or key to all the various Opus functions) and will try to squeeze it in before xmas. Cheers Guys Stephen
|
|
![]() |
|
aua668 ![]() New Member ![]() Joined: June-10-2009 Location: Austria Points: 29 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi,
Just provide your wind aloft data to FSBuild. That's enough for me. Rgds Reinhard |
|
![]() |
|
electric man ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: November-22-2012 Location: Thailand Points: 470 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
A weather radar moving map displaying fronts and turbulence areas around your flightplan would be nice since the iFly didn't implement that on there B737 series due to frame rate killing.
Herman
|
|
![]() |
|
SkipperMac ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-05-2011 Location: UK Points: 195 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sorry, can't agree with this suggestion. Lets keep the OpusFSX interface as simple and undemanding (on the PC) as possible. Since we're getting real weather, there are plenty of other resources to illustrate it for us without spoiling the efficiency of Opus. Just my tuppence worth... |
|
SkipperMac aka Norman
i7 2600k @ 3.5GHz | Asus P8P67Pro | 8GB DDR3 RAM | nVidia 9800GTX+ 512 MB | 2 x 500GB Samsung SpinPoint F3 HDD |
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If we did something like that it would be separate program running on a networked PC or laptop.
Stephen ![]() |
|
![]() |
|
SkipperMac ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: October-05-2011 Location: UK Points: 195 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Understood Stephen
![]() |
|
SkipperMac aka Norman
i7 2600k @ 3.5GHz | Asus P8P67Pro | 8GB DDR3 RAM | nVidia 9800GTX+ 512 MB | 2 x 500GB Samsung SpinPoint F3 HDD |
|
![]() |
|
soundrats ![]() Intermediate Group ![]() Joined: April-01-2010 Location: Germany Points: 83 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hello,
I do not feally ubserstand what GRIB forecast means and what really happens. I read the manuals but I do not came closer to knwledge. Regards Ton |
|
![]() |
|
RCFlyer51 ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-09-2009 Location: United States Points: 145 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Whatever you do, please, ensure the program continues to provide the high quality r/w weather with the same level of impact to the sim pc. Opus is outstanding as a weather engine and I would greatly appreicate it remaining true to that purpose. Regards,
|
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
The GRIB forecast data is produced by NOAA and provides a global forecast of atmospheric conditions such as wind speeds, directions, and atmospheric temperatures at various altitudes along with the tropopause. It also provides a forecast of the tropopause height. The GRIB data covers the entire globe at 1 degree latitude and 1 degree longitude precision. Each forecast cycle contains data forecasted for the next 360 hours.
This data is used by the weather engine to determine all the lower and upper atmospheric conditions. The LWE uses the forecasted data to create ambient wind and temperature targets for all different altitudes from FL040 up to FL450, and even a temperature forecast for FL540. With Automatic Settings, the LWE will use GRIB data any time you specify an intended Cruise Altitude of 6000 feet or above. The data provides realistic real world atmospheric conditions for you within the simulator. Stephen |
|
![]() |
|
soundrats ![]() Intermediate Group ![]() Joined: April-01-2010 Location: Germany Points: 83 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Stephen,
if I select the GRIB Weather, then I should see this in the report for the upper and lower level. I sholud see 2 reports there - the actual and the GRIB, isn´t it like this. But I see only the actual the space behind GRIB is empty although I enabled GRIB. VERS 2.94.4 FSX Cheers Tom |
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
You will only see the two sets of values (actual and adjusted) in the Upper Atmosphere Report when you have the Sim Friendly GRIB Forecast Data option set. This will be set automatically if you use the Adjust Settings Automatically, and Adjust Sim Friendly options ticked and specify a cruise altitude of at least 6000 feet.
Stephen
|
|
![]() |
|
soundrats ![]() Intermediate Group ![]() Joined: April-01-2010 Location: Germany Points: 83 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Thnx stephen - ok I understand I see GRIB only in UPPER - with Sim Friendly GRIB - Cruise above 6000.
My read back :-) Tom |
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
If you have the Sim Friendly option enabled then you will see two sets of values in the Upper report. The actual raw GRIB forecast data and the adjusted 'sim friendly' data. The two sets of values will be equal at your specified cruise altitude.
You can examine the full report in the OpusWeatherReport.txt file. Stephen
|
|
![]() |
|
twharrell ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: March-15-2011 Location: Colorado Points: 150 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I would love, not so much as a flight planning utility, but rather a weather center where I can display my route and then gather winds aloft, turbulence, sigwx, icing, METARS/TAFs, etc in visual format along my route. If there was any way to print that information, that would be a bonus. Think of an Opus Pilot Weather Center feature.
Todd |
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Current Flight Planning Assistance Beta Development ... The first phase of flight planning assistance has been included. Users may enter or paste their flight plan, or a list of ICAO codes into the edit box provided at the top of the Weather dialog. In this phase of development, all recognised met station ICAO codes will be extracted from the user's flight plan and appended where necessary to the LWE's download list. A new weather report window option to display the 'Flight Plan En Route Weather Reports' has been added to the reports Main Menu. This option will list all identified met stations extracted from the flight plan. Select the required station from the list to display the current reported weather at that site. If you enter a flight plan then the last station listed in the plan will automatically be assigned as your Destination provided you haven't already specified your Destination in the Weather dialog. Similarly when the flight plan cruise altitude list is implemented, the highest altitude listed will be assigned as your Max Cruise Altitude provided you have already specified it. Navigraph Data ... I am presently preparing the software for the second phase which will recognise the user's waypoints and navigation aids (VORs etc.) within the flight plan, determine the nearest met station to those locations, and add those METARs to the download list and Flight Plan Weather Reports. I would like to know if people are using the Navigraph data on their systems and have the <FSX>\Navigraph\Navdata folder installed on their system. If so, then I can extract the very latest nav cycle navaid and waypoint data from these files for you. I may choose to use this licensed data on your system so you may need it in order to locate your nav points. Please let me know if you intend using the FP assistant feature and have the above Navigraph data installed in your FSX/P3D folder. Regards Stephen
|
|
![]() |
|
peebee ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: August-10-2011 Location: Manchester UK Points: 663 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi Stephen, yes to both questions,
Phil |
|
![]() |
|
![]() |
|
borgfan ![]() Intermediate Group ![]() Joined: August-18-2010 Points: 42 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Sounds good, yes again to both questions.
Gerard |
|
![]() |
|
jordanal ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: September-03-2006 Location: KMLB Points: 187 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Hi Stephen,
Yes to both questions for me, too. :)
|
|
Al Jordan
FSX Rig: i7 2600k, 4.8GHz / Asus P8Z68-V Pro / Mushkin DDR3-1600 8GB / EVGA GTX 570 GPU / TX850 PSU / Graphite 600T Case |
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Excellent. I will start preparing phase two then which will extract your waypoints and navaid points, building a METAR list for them. These METARs will then be downloaded and appear in the Flight Plan En Route Weather Report. Phase three will probably add the text report file with details of all relevent winds and temps aloft.
Stephen ![]() |
|
![]() |
|
twharrell ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: March-15-2011 Location: Colorado Points: 150 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Stephen,
Great news. I know this still beta, but any way to include the option of using Aerosoft Navdata Pro instead of Navigraph? Doesn't really affect me personally but I know there are many who are not using Navigraph. Todd |
|
![]() |
|
Opus Software ![]() Senior Member ![]() Joined: April-12-2012 Location: Grantham, UK Points: 15407 |
![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
I don't see why not. I only have Navigraph at the moment but provided the Nav aid and waypoint definition files are accessible and in a form that can be deciphered then the software could access them as a user option.
I will most likely extract the data and store it in a DAT for for the user, then check for updates to the nav data files each time the Opus server program runs and the user clicks on the Flight Plan button. The Flight Plan Assistant will be an ongoing development anyway and I will add whatever is needed or deemed useful to people. Stephen ![]() |
|
![]() |
Post Reply ![]() |
Page 123 5> |
Tweet |
Forum Jump | Forum Permissions ![]() You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot create polls in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum |