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 Topic: Admin: Prepar3D V3 Patches For USA and EuropePosted: October-06-2015 at 9:09pm |
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Ladies and Gentlemen,
The patches are ready that will add native Prepar3D V3 support to both UTX USA and UTX Europe. Before running the patches, you must be running UTX USA V2.1 and UTX Europe V2.1. These patch do not actually patch the core UTX Europe and UTX USA products. What they do is add a Prepar3D V3 option to the Install Managers for these products so that the core products can then be installed for the Prepar3D V3 platform. Those of you that know what this means can probably just download and execute the patches below: UTX USA V2 Patch For Prepar3D V3 UTX Europe V2 Patch For Prepar3D V3 Patch Documentation Most of you will probably want to view the patch documentation before applying the patches. The documentation can be found below: UTX USA V2 Patch Documentation For Prepar3D V3 UTX Europe V2 Patch Documentation For Prepar3D V3 http://files.100megabyte.com/ultterrain/Patch/UtxEurPrepar3dV3.pdfWe will make an official announcement regarding these patches after a few days. Right now we are only announcing them in the forum. |
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Posted: October-06-2015 at 10:31pm |
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Tested and worked like a champ...
GEP3D found UTX USA/Europe automatically when it was launched and backed up/enabled the GEP3D/UTX features for those regions All that is left now is Tropics and Alaska.. GEP3D is already preprogrammed for when you release those. Just a reminder, after installing UTX USA 2.1 in P3D be sure to run the 2.2 patch http://www.simforums.com/forums/admin-utx-usa-v22-patch-released_topic53658.html and also run the USA/Canada and Europe Acceleration patches http://www.simforums.com/forums/admin-utx-and-fsx-acceleration-pack_topic23111.html as I do think those are needed for both FSXSE and P3D as I recall |
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 12:10am |
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Thanks for being on the ball. I like this :)
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 8:50am |
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Hello,
I have an error while installing the patch  |
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 9:45am |
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Yup missing file that needs to be added to installer - USA works this does not - thanks for the quick work though Allen
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 10:32am |
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OK. I might know what is going on. The patch has a check to make sure it is being installed to the most recent version of UTX Europe, which is version 2.1. So, the patch is looking for the UtxEurV21Fsx.exe file. I put this in to make sure that users are installing the patch to the correct folder. So, you will need to upgrade to UTX Europe 2.1 before running this patch. I need to change the requirement. You can upgrade to UTX Europe V2.1 in the thread below: |
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 10:43am |
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BTW. I changed the patch requirements to V2.1 for both the USA and Europe.
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:27am |
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Allen - confused how can I patch something that is not installed yet - when I run the first installer when the manager launches there is nothing in it - its blank - I only have P3D V3 on my machine any help on this process would be great
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:41am |
No problem. I will explain. First, if you have not installed UTX Europe yet and you currently have the 2.0 version, just download the full 2.1 version of UTX Europe from Flight 1. When you have version 2.1 installed, the Prepar3D V3 patch will find the correct files. Here is the link to the full V2.1 installer if you need it. There is no upgrade charge for 2.0 users of course. After you install UTX Europe V2.1, by default you should see the following files in the C:\Program Files (x86)\ScenerySolutions\UTXEuropeIM folder: 10/01/2015 09:05 PM 807 IM.INI 05/15/2015 03:29 PM 83,417 UninstUtxEuropeIM.exe 05/13/2015 10:13 AM 1,752,739,944 UtxEurV21Data.exe 05/15/2015 03:04 PM 5,653,330 UtxEurV21Fsx.exe 05/15/2015 03:02 PM 5,653,380 UtxEurV21FsxSE.exe 05/15/2015 03:03 PM 5,653,342 UtxEurV21P3D.exe 05/15/2015 02:59 PM 5,653,391 UtxEurV21P3D25.exe 05/15/2015 03:01 PM 5,653,336 UtxEurV21SE.exe 02/26/2015 09:35 PM 2,974,208 UTXInstallManager.exe 02/26/2015 05:08 PM 314,220 UTXInstallManager.pdf 05/12/2015 10:13 PM 3,408,711 UtxLightsFsx.exe 05/12/2015 10:13 PM 3,408,737 UtxLightsFsxSE.exe 05/12/2015 10:14 PM 3,408,747 UtxLightsP3D.exe 05/12/2015 10:14 PM 3,408,774 UtxLightsP3D25.exe 05/12/2015 10:14 PM 3,408,724 UtxLightsSE.exe Notice that these files specify V21 in the filenames. If you are running V2.0, you will see V20 in some of the file names After installing UTX Europe V2.1 and you then run the IMUtxEurPatchP3D3.exe patch, you will see 2 additional files in the same folder. 10/01/2015 09:02 PM 5,653,413 UtxEurV21P3D3.exe 09/30/2015 02:58 PM 3,408,768 UtxLightsP3D3.exe These files add P3D V3 support to the Install Manager. The patch also edits the IM.INI and adds a few entries so that the Install Manager knows to look for the new files. Does this help ? |
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:47am |
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Have an error while installing the 21 patch
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:47am |
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BTW.
This is a very good question and thanks for bringing it up. You are correct that the UTX Europe V2.1 patch itself won't change the Install Manager filenames. I think this is why I never officially released the patch in the UTX Europe forums and instead changed the full download of UTX Europe to version V2.1 on the Flight 1 site. I need to remove the patch link from this forum. Those that need to upgrade should just download the full version. Hopefully, this won't be too much of an inconvenience. Thanks for the feedback. Please everyone keep me posted as to any issues that come up. |
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:53am |
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I have 2.1 I thought - I will double check that tonight when I get home - great instructions hoping I did not have the latest install that would make things easy :) thanks Allen as always super job - let you know how it worked out
Ah after seeing your last post I think a new full download is in order and I will not need the patch ?
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:53am |
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Ivangoga,
See my previous messages. It looks like Prepar3D V3 users will need to download the full UTX Europe V2.1 version from the Flight 1 site below: You should uninstall the "Install Manger For UTX Europe" before installing the full version 2.1.  Sorry about the confusion everyone. I did not anticipate the fact that some users could be running UTX Europe V2.0, which causes problems.
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:54am |
Yes. You can tell the version from the filenames in the UtxEuropeIM folder.
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:56am |
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Hi Allen,
I'm no stranger to UTX but I am confused still/again. I have a machine with just P3D v3. I have the new UTX Canada 2 already installed on it. So, how to install USA and Europe? Download new again from F1? Thanks, Clayton
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:56am |
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So do we need to still patch it or will it work out of the box ?
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 12:21pm |
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Clayton. You only need to download new versions if your existing versions of the UTX Europe and/or USA installers are V2.0. You should be able to tell by the installer filenames after you have extracted the installer from the ECommerce wrapper. If you have V2.1, you should see '21' somewhere in the filenames instead of '20'.
I believe the UTX Europe V2.1 installer is named "UtxEur21IM.exe".
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 12:24pm |
Prepar3D V3 support has not been added to the production Flight 1 installers. So, if you are a UTX Europe user, the process should be: 1) Install the full retail release of UTX Europe V2.1. 2) Install the Prepar3D V3 patch. Hopefully, LM will slow down when it comes to redesigning their Prepar3D registry and folder structures.
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 12:48pm |
Or at least give you guys some advance notice. Seems like there is a disconnect. With all the people claiming to be beta testers, how come the developers always seem so surprised and hence, pissed off? Anyway, thanks for clarifying the install/update process. Clayton
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 2:00pm |
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Thanks Allen - sounds good much appreciated :)
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 2:15pm |
Honestly, a lot of this falls on us developers. We could get on the beta team if we were proactive enough about it. I am certainly not angry with LM, just surprised that they made another big structure change after doing it in Prepar3D V2.5. Prepar3D seems to be growing. But, is still a smaller market share than FSX/FSX-SE. P3D V3 does seem like another step forward though. And, we all need to keep the flight simulator market from getting too stagnant.
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 2:57pm |
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P3D V3 Rocks Brother - you are going to see a lot more fsx users jumping ship and I think you will not see much changing from LM from now on - at least until they build a 64bit version :)
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 7:28pm |
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Worked great Allen thanks big time :)
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 8:44pm |
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Same here but one more question. Regarding the USA/Canada border fix patch, does it still go in?
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Posted: October-07-2015 at 11:52pm |
Yes. Jeff |
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Posted: October-08-2015 at 7:43am |
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Thanks Jeff and Allen. USA 2.2, Europe 2.1 and Canada 2.0 all in P3Dv3 and doing their thing.
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Posted: October-08-2015 at 12:21pm |
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Just an FYI. All future "official" patches will either be "content patches" or "platform patches".
"Platform Patches" are those that only add platform support to the "UTX Install Managers". These patches don't change any UTX features at all. Hopefully, we won't have a need for any more of these types of patches for a while. The Prepar3D V3 patches that we just released are "Platform Patches". "Content patches" are those that are independent of any platforms and actually change UTX content. A content patch will apply to all platforms. The UTX USA V2.2 patch is an example of this type of patch. At times there may also be minor "unofficial" patches released. These patches may do something that only impacts users with other 3rd party addons. For example, we have released unofficial UTX texture changes to match another product better in the past. With all the new platforms these days, we are trying to come up with a structure that can be clearly documented and understood by our users. Patches are frustrating for both developers and users. And, you have to find the right balance between patch release times, because some users love frequent updates and others hate them. Cheers, Allen |
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Posted: October-08-2015 at 2:14pm |
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Well said Allen - thanks
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Posted: October-08-2015 at 2:57pm |
I am having the same message for UTX USA: I had V2.1 installed, then ran the P3DV3 patch, which installed successfully and then ran the USA Patch 2.2. I pointed to the right simulator location and launched the patch prepartion which completed ok, but then when launching the patch itself I had the same warning above. What shall I do ? Thanks Regards Ezio |
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Posted: October-08-2015 at 10:21pm |
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Ezio.
It looks like you are trying to run a UTX Europe Patch, not USA ? Also, if you are trying to upgrade UTX Europe, see the thread below as there are special instructions for P3D V3 users: |
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Allen,
thanks ...I resolved the issue by removing and reinstalling UTX USA V2.1. I then ran the P3DV3 patch and then the UTX USA patch 2.2 and this time it worked. I probably messed something up during the previous install. Thanks for your answer anyway. Regards Ezio
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I have P3dv2.5 installed on a limited space SSD.
All my scenery, Orbx, Megascenery, and most importantly UTXUSA & UTXEUROPE, reside on on the I:\P3dv2.5 root drive, a 250GB partition of a 500GB SSD, L: drive,the rest of the SSD holds other scenery. The rest of my scenery,750GB total is also shared on a fast USBv3 external drive labeled L:. I have been using my scenery.cfg and terrain.cfg from P3Dv2.5 to the P3dv3 appropriate folder, and everything seems to work fine in v3, which shares space on I:,...except UTXUSA and UTXEurope. Because many of my DLC vendors have not yet come up with V3 policies/installers, I want to continue to enjoy my stable 2.5 with working add-?ons....UNTIL it becomes obvious that the payback to run v3 surpasses that of my cozy V2.5 install. PMDG forced me to decide between v2.5 and v3, and I am hoping you will not do the same. Is there a way to reference my already installed and functioning P3dv2.5 UTXUSA and UTXEurope installs to work as my ORBX installs do through copying my scenery.cfg and terrain.cfg , in V3? Or do i have to uninstall my v2.5 UTX files to RE-INSTALL UTX into P3dv3? ...cause I don't have room on my SSD for TWO identical UTX installs. I hope I have made myself clear in my admiration for UTX AND need to keep my use of same without interruption...however it can or must be....happy to fill in any omissions. Thanks, Chas |
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Posted: October-21-2015 at 11:54pm |
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UTX is designed to be installed into the root folder of the flightsim platform so is not setup to be shared across multiple versions. While it might be technically possible to hack this to work I'd guess it would involve creating manual shortcuts for hundreds of folders and files. It would not be worth the trouble to try and document such a fragile and unsupportable solution.
I'd estimate that the space you would need for the UTX USA and UTX Europe installs into P3D v3 would be around 6 Gb. As noted in the first post of this thread there is a patch process you need to go through to provide the UTX install manager ability to install into P3D v3. Jeff |
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Thanks Jeff! I went ahead and bit the bullet and did the patch and install into v3, cause I just couldn't do without UTXUSA! V2.1 is ensconced in P3dv3 in all its glory and I am happy camper! Course I don't know whether the P3dv2.5 version is still there, I'm too tired to check for tonight. Thanks, Chas |
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I do appreciate that the answer to my question is probably embedded in the earlier postings, but frankly I am struggling to piece it all together and would appreciate if someone could tell me, step by step, what I have to do to install Europe and USA 2.1 in P3Dv3 ... I have no UTX scenery yet installed and all I have is the 2.1 installers for both areas dated August 19, 2015 ... thanks in anticipation ....
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Posted: December-07-2015 at 3:48pm |
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What you ask for is included in the patch documentation PDFs listed in the very first post in this thread.
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Hi .... thought I was home and dry but no ... when I try to run both Install Managers I get the message: Attempt to call installer failed ... may need to run this application as Administrator ... ???
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Posted: December-08-2015 at 11:29am |
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Yes, as noted in our FAQs and in numerous posts in this forum, you should always look to run installers and the UTX Setup Tool by right-clicking on them and selcting "Run as administrator".
Also make sure that you are not trying to run the installers from inside the zip archive and/or a read-only location. Jeff |
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