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NickN 
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 Topic: A WARNING ABOUT MS UPDATES FOR WINDOWS 10Posted: May-23-2015 at 7:39pm |
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EDIT: THERE IS A METHOD TO DISABLE W10 BEING OFFERED THROUGH WINDOWS UPDATE LISTED AT THE END OF THIS POST YOU MUST FIRST GET RID OF ALL THE KB's AS LISTED BELOW AND THEN CAN DISABLE ALL W10 UPDATING USING THE 2ND OUTLINE BELOW I just came back from a trip and my logs show my system has been running CPU time without me being here and I tracked it down and removed two of the offending updates thinking I found them all.. then I found the system started running by itself and eating CPU with high disk access while I was using my system for productivity work and there is MORE involved. This has to be the most intrusive nonsense I have ever seen Microsoft pull Microsoft has decided to release updates that will EAT your memory and processor while your system runs. This was not a mistake. These updates are designed to constantly collect data about your computer for Windows 10. One of them will act like ADWARE and eventually pop up offering you Windows 10. They will run in the background automatically with absolutely no control from the user to shut them down. They can use up to 25-35% of a quad core processor, 35-50% of a dual core and will run while you are using your computer regardless of that use OR when the system has a monitor sleep mode but the power profile is not set to sleep or hibernate.. The power profile any FS computer should be set to run HIGH PERFORMANCE in order to avoid any power management by MS during gaming operation. This effects BOTH WINDOWS 7 and WINDOWS 8 To shut this nonsense down and make sure it does not come back, do the following NOTE: THIS LINK PROVIDES MORE INFORMATION FOR WINDOWS 8 http://www.ghacks.net/2015/04/17/how-to-remove-windows-10-upgrade-updates-in-windows-7-and-8/ In Windows 7: 1. CONTROL PANEL - PROGRAMS AND FEATURES - on the side, click VIEW INSTALLED UPDATES 2. In the list that appears for the list of installed WINDOWS UPDATES, scroll down and locate the following updates in WINDOWS 7 KB2952664 KB2990214 KB3021917 KB3035583 KB2977759 KB2996978 KB3022345 KB3044374 KB3068708 VERIFY EACH KB NUMBER BEFORE CONTINUING 3. UNINSTALL EACH UPDATE YOU FIND - NOTE: When asked to reboot select LATER and continue until all those are uninstalled and remove them in the ORDER shown above THEN REBOOT Go back and check to see if those updates are all gone in the system.. if they are then check and see if you can still connect to Windows Update... IF BOTH ARE TRUE SKIP TO #6 BELOW AND HIDE THE UPDATES AT WU. You are done If KB2952664 has come back or appears again, OR you cant connect to Windows Update and get a ERROR continue with #4 below after uninstalling KB2952664 again Here is the kicker.. if you UNINSTALL KB2952664 many systems cant connect to Windows update anymore! Really MS? Punishment or dimwit strong-arm tactics? 4. Run this MS FIX IT tool http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/windows-update-error-8000ffff [ignore the reference to Vista] Run with the check box aggressive mode unchecked, let it finish, close and then rerun the tool again with the check in AGGRESSIVE 5. Once finished, reboot The above repairs Windows update from not being able to run but BE AWARE it will CLEAN/FLUSH the Windows update 'history' list but wont remove the update list 6. Once rebooted run Windows Update in MANUAL MODE do not let MS download and install updates automatically.. the updates I noted above should reappear in the list including KB2952664 right click them all and select HIDE KB2952664 KB2990214 KB3021917 KB3035583 KB2977759 KB2996978 KB3022345 KB3044374 KB3068708 you will no longer be prompted to install those hidden nonsense updates unless MS decides to try and slip them back in again and Windows Update will work fine For Windows 8 the process is similar.. you can review the link above to remove this garbage EDIT: If the above FIXIT tool fails and you still can not connect to WU, Try this tool: Download the correct version x32 or x64 and let it repair WU. It will request you install a KB and then it will run a aggressive scan to fix issues. It can take 10 minutes and up to 3 hours to run sometimes so if it appears to hang at like 85%, its still running.. reboot when it finished and recheck WU and don't worry about the MSfixit tools One other option I found worked on one system, change the dropdown selection for how you get updates to: CHECK FOR UPDATES BUT LET ME CHOOSE TO DOWNLOAD/INSTALL see if it connects. If it does and after changes are made you can switch it back to NEVER CHECK FOR UPDATES =================================================== HOW TO DISABLE WINDOWS 10 UPGRADING FROM WINDOWS UPDATE: KB3065987 (Published July 14th) This update is OK as it allows you to turn off any Windows upgrade through Windows Update Install this KB Once installed, go to START and in the search box type: gpedit.msc When the console appears then click to expand: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > Windows Components > Windows Update In the side pane find and double click: Turn off the upgrade to the latest version of Windows. Move the bullet from NOT CONFIGURED to ENABLED Click APPLY and close ================================================ For those on versions of Windows that do not have the control console such as Windows 7 Home: Its manually done in the registry Verify this key exists in the registry.. if not create it manually: Key: HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Gwx Name: DisableGwx Type: REG_DWORD Value: 1 Copy this to notepad and save as: disable.reg, then merge it --------------------------begin copy---------------------------- Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00 [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\GWX\shell\open\command] [-HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\ms-gwx\shell\open\command] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\GWX\shell\open\command] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Classes\ms-gwx\shell\open\command] [-HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WINEVT\Publishers\{18abebc9-83ec-435f-8f15-6d1e9187c999}] --------------------------end copy---------------------------- NOTE: If for some reason you are seeing the W10 tray nag nonsense, you can disable that first with admin command prompt taskkill /f /im GWX.exe /T and then run the disable.reg |
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dmz0427
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Posted: May-23-2015 at 8:46pm |
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Nick
Thank You VERY VERY Much for this the average person would NEVER know about I would of never caught it, I don't even know what logs to go look at I cant believe MS is doing this ,,, that is low down and dirty,,, just as bad as hacking ,, and in a way it is hacking ,,, MS YOU NEED TO GET YOUR SHI* BACK TOGETHER ,, TO MS, Maybe another Class action will wake your dumb as*es up at MS Thanks Again Nick DMZ |
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NickN
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Posted: May-23-2015 at 9:06pm |
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Ok look
when you installed Windows you LEGALLY AGREED to allow this OK? Its a grey area but they can legally do this.. its just the way they did it is pretty STUPID when one considers how much CPU this takes up. MS has their heads in the sand and thinks no one uses their computer in such a way they need ALL the CPU power available to it My GUESS is this is going to hit the fan and MS will issue a new update that will stop this check. I bet they considered that and decided to be intrusive out of the gate to collect as much information as possible from peoples computers before they were forced to shut it down |
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Airvette
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Posted: May-23-2015 at 9:48pm |
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Good grief, not to wear a tin foil hat but in today's political climate, NSA?
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NickN
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Posted: May-23-2015 at 10:23pm |
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take the tin-foil hat off.,.. its just MS gathering information about everyone system for Windows 10 deployment so they can offer seamless upgrade or downgrade if W10 is complete crap
On top of that one of the so called KB's has installed a feature to nag you about upgrading to Windows 10 I don't need or want MS using my system to make that call.. although it is legal for them to do it, we should have been given a OPT OUT warning, we were not I was sitting here doing video editing and cant figure out why its going so slow.. find out my CPU and drive access is being sucked to death by MS. Same thing can happen to FS users This is ridiculous but the process above will eliminate the issue assuming MS doesn't try anything sneaky again once its globally discovered and all over the net. Right now its known but not a well known issue because they deployed it first on systems by only triggering it when the monitor was asleep but the system was still up.. last updates recently changed that to deploy regardless. As I said, I think they decided to just try and get as much information as they can before its widely discovered and will sit there and act like it was a accident and pull/fix it once it gets discovered and posted all over the net |
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Airvette
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Posted: May-23-2015 at 10:28pm |
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I have not once updated my system since it was built, I found one, deleted it and it didn't ask for a reboot. I don't update because if it ain't broke...
I still don't trust them. |
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777simmer
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 2:12am |
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I hardly update either.....lazyness for one, but also because things are humming along pretty good.
Last updates I did was when I reinstalled everything in Jan/Feb 2014. That is an FSX only system though.....nothing else on it ! I dont know......no specialist here, but if you dont visit dodgy sites (I dont even browse the internet with my FSX PC, I have a laptop for that) and only use your FSX system for,well...FSX.....then I would think Win7 with updates till 2015/02 is pretty much fixed/updated/optimized as much as is possible. I might just refrain from updating completely after reading this. |
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Donovan16
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 2:55am |
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Well, with this particular example as the unusual exception, I try to keep my system current with Windows Update (Other than Drivers).
To date, I have never gone wrong with following the guidelines in The Bible. I'm not intending to sound like a "Bible-Thumper"  , but to quote:CHAPTER 3, VERSE 8 - You have run Windows update and rebooted several times until all Critical and Important optional or important suggested updates have been installed including Windows 7 SP1:
Under Windows Optional updates you can uncheck and skip junk such as BING toolbar and other bloat-ware features of that nature however there are good optional updates that should be applied such as compatibility updates and updates to NET that may be needed. Updating Windows requires running Windows Update, rebooting and returning to Windows Update to recheck over and over again until the message: �There are no updates available for you computer� appears. NOTE: From time to time it is possible that a Windows Update can install a update that causes an issue. although this is VERY RARE and usually when such things happen they are noted online, however, such rare issues should never stop you from keeping your computer updated correctly from Windows Update. I am danged appreciative of Nick's posting of things like this, and the ability to keep the system running optimally. Thank You, Nick! Don |
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777simmer
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 7:06am |
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Yes....I am aware of that part of the Bible too.
And if I was using my PC for daily use like Email/internet/downloading stuff, etc then I would stick to that as well. Just like you I pretty much stick to everything in the Bible. As I said....I am updated as far as Feb 2015.....its not like I am running Win7 fresh out of the box. But as it is, I dont even have a virus scanner on my FSX PC (dedicated FSX PC). I never download anything with it, not even FSX addons.....I do all downloading/unpacking and virus scanning with my Laptop. I never browse the internet with itt either....ever! I have no other software installed...no email....no microsoft office....no flash player...no nothing. I cant imagine that a recent or future update will increase performance of Win7.....it has been updated and Service packed as far as performance will go I am guessing. So the only updates coming will be security updates and fixes for all kinds of software (and bogus updates mentioned here) that my FSX PC does not benefit from....again just guessing though. |
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Airvette
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 7:43am |
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777, I'm the same exact way. Never surf, only use the PC for FSX, nothing else at all, no AV, no firewall, Flash, Office. nothing. I even download files for FSX with my iMac and use a thumb drive to transfer them to the PC for installation.
And thanks to Nick my PC hums along perfectly, I have only had one or two OOM's and than was because of scenery I no longer use and the G1000 planes can take a major toll on VAS too. But the PC is only for FSX, that's the only reason for its existence. So why update? I found one that was on Nick's list and promptly removed it. |
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Flying Dutchman
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 8:03am |
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Thanks for the info Nick, I've done what you suggested regarding the updates.
Will you be keeping tabs on any possible sneaks from MS? It would be appreciated. What MS is doing is legal, but is it morally legal? You do realise that from now you might be in bad books with MS?
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Best regards, Jaap.
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NickN
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 11:13am |
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MS is going to do what ever they have to do to get people to move to another OS
In this day and age of apps and phones that track our every move, monitor our every keystroke and figure out what we buy and don't buy in order to change marketing tactics society has allowed a change in how things are done today as compared to the past which has opened the door to companies like MS to be more intrusive into our lives MS bought Nokia so the trends from them will probably follow the same mindset as the smartphone business Society allowed this by saying "I AGREE" to every intrusive agreement in the world and the younger generation doesn't care about a lot of that, they just want their toy to work. One day they may wake up but by then the damage will have already been done, irreversible for the most part, and what might be reversed will be a token measure to appease but not make any real change till the next generation digs a deeper hole that can never be filled. All we can do is find these things when they come up and figure out how to work around them sad thing is, eventually there wont be any workarounds. There will come a day, not in my lifetime but it will come, where people are chipped at birth and the computers will follow everyone from the day they are born and GPS locate their final resting place That's not tin-foil hat.. that's sadly just the way things are going and society is allowing it to slowly happen. |
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alainneedle1
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 11:51am |
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I just can't erase this one KB2952664 no matter what I tried it still there after a reboot when I look in programs and features under "View installed updates" ...any suggestions?
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NickN
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hmm.. just noticed that here too let me check into that one
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alainneedle1
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The funny part is that after running Window update you will see KB2952664 as a downloadable update as if it was uninstalled properly before BUT when you look in "View Installed updates" it's still there.... EDIT: Another thing, when uninstalling it again you'r not asked for a reboot so I think the update is not there anymore (I may be wrong) but only a shadow of it by the presence of the numbers related to it, see every time you uninstall this update you close and re-open the "View installed updates" right away and "voila" the numbers appeared again ...."kinda" weird...
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NickN
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 12:28pm |
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checking here...
That update was the one that wreaked havoc on systems last year and they reissued it. Its part of the system that runs for preparing for W10. Its optional but there is no warning about it or a opt-out for it. Its possible they hard coded it to remain even after a reboot I know if its uninstalled WU fails with a error and you must run the tool I posted... but there may be another tool that will do the job too. Like I said, checking here.... this may end up being a one shot deal and once installed it cant be removed without a windows flush and then make sure its never selected |
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alainneedle1
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 12:33pm |
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I thought about that.....would't this be great...sigh
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NickN
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 12:49pm |
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Ok its uninstalled here
NOTE: THE ORIGINAL LIST ABOVE NOW HAS THIS PROCESS EDITED INTO IT you REALLY have to question a 'optional update' from MS that when removed kills your ability to get updates from MS through WU unless you know how to repair it... and then it reinstalls by itself unless you know how to trick WU into skipping it. Sounds like a thug coming around to collect for da boss |
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NickN
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 1:07pm |
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I have a feeling MS altered the Windows Update Diagnostic tool I originally posted to pull a fast one and not properly flush that KB out
The link I posted above is a OLD tool that should do the same thing the WUD tool I posted does but was made years ago and long before they got the bright idea to pull this nonsense I will edit my original post to point to the Vista tool.. its also possible to get rid of it one must run both. That's the only factor I don't know here but I am not reinstalling that update to find out |
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alainneedle1
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OK the last tool did the trick, just a matter of time before MS alter this one also, I would not be surprise if they pull the same sh** under another update number...time will tell.
That just reminded me of Nvidia releasing a new drivers where you can't overclock the card and have to fix it back after to many complaints.... http://www.techpowerup.com/212813/nvidia-restores-overclocking-on-gtx-900m-again.html
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Avidean
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I have never installed updates to Windows 7 since I built my system following the Bible and the Haswell 4.8 on air guides. After reading this I never will :-)
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Fly happy
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Nick, what was the link to the first tool?
KB2952664 will not go away with only the MS FIX IT tool http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-vista/windows-update-error-8000ffff I think we need to run both |
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NickN
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 2:33pm |
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Did you try it more than once?
Reboot and start the list over again and see what happens |
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Fly happy
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 2:35pm |
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Yes I did it twice and it still shows under INSTALLED UPDATES.
The date is changed to TODAY. It was originally installed MAY 21st.
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Hans
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NickN
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This is the Windows update diagnostic cab
That was the first tool I ran using the same list above then I redid the list with the tool that is linked there now If it does not work the start over with the one I linked here and follow the list.... and then run through the list again with the vista tool instead if it goes away then it may take both tools to kill it because that is what both myself and alain did
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Fly happy
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 3:40pm |
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I was finally able to get rid of KB2952664.
The problem though, is that I don't know if both tools were needed to get rid of it completely. You see, I tried the Windows update diagnostic cab and then the Vista tool as well afterwards, rebooted and KB2952664 still showed under Installed Updates. I then tried various methods, for instance the Windows update diagnostic cab and then reboot, uninstalled the KB2952664 again and then the Vista tool and another reboot and it stilled showed under installed updates.
Then I made a discovery. After uninstalling the KB2952664 yet again, I exited the Installed Updates window, and reentered it again and there KB2952664 showed up again (without rebooting). So I uninstalled it TWICE from Installed Updates without rebooting. Exited the window, reentered and now it was gone from Installed Updates. Then ran the Vista tool, rebooted and KB2952664 was indeed gone. Hopefully for good. |
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NickN
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There is more traction gaining about this now in a few different forums I saw a post somewhere that suggested reinstalling KB3035583 then remove KB2952664 and remove KB3035583 again. Once enough people start posting about the problems perhaps someone will make a tool or come up with a solution for the whole thing
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ubersu
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If you simply uninstall this KB3035583 one you should have no issues with the others running. I have never installed KB3035583 and have not seen any undue CPU usage.
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Fly happy
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Thanks Nick for the heads up.
It's funny, yesterday I noticed the sim was not performing as well as it used to. I started to blaim the addon airport in the area but in the back of my head I knew it was not that bad last time so then I started blaiming the AI traffic since it can vary with the time and date. It could very well have been these updates that I noticed having an effect on performance. Anyway, without the heads up I would have been lost. Thank you.
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NickN
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No reason to have any of it in there for MS to trigger later in different ways once they catch on people are shutting one down If I don't want my system scanned for Windows 10 or my computer running CPU all night long when I am not around, or, disk thrashing when I am using my system then I should be given a OPT OUT option on all of that KB3021917 will run with the other off too. That's where my disk activity was coming from even with 3035583 uninstalled and disabled at WU These things are being triggered from the task scheduler when they fail to run otherwise If MS wants to do this they can make a package and ask people if they want to run it for prep of Windows 10 These things are intrusive and not right They eve try to pass it off as a "Easter Egg" like they are doing me a favor by running my system into the ground and forcing my power bill higher just to nagware me into take Windows 10 every other company that does that is considered malware and adware |
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Donovan16
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As a note, after running through the fixes several times as outlined by Nick to get rid of KB2952664, it kept re-appearing in the installed update list.
I used Han's "double delete" method and re-ran the Vista fix, and KB2952664 is finally off my system. That bugger is more persistent than a starved horse-fly! Thanks! Don |
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mobsky
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Joined: April-09-2012 Location: Canada Points: 371 |
Posted: May-24-2015 at 5:22pm |
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Thanks for the heads up Nick!
uninstalled all that crap. Windows update worked fine, I did not have to run the tool, it only said that I never updated or installed updates before. |
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FLighT
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Joined: November-15-2006 Location: BucksCounty, Pa Points: 382 |
Posted: May-24-2015 at 7:07pm |
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Same here, per your instructions I uninstalled all 4 KBs simultaneously, lost the Update History but the Installed Updates list is there and does not show the 4 KB's listed above. Did not need the fixit tool. Rebooted and ran WUPD and it gave a long list of items including the 4 KBs just removed which I hid. I've only done this on my laptop so far, I'll take a look at my 2 sim rigs tomorrow. I generally don't care what gets loaded on the craptop and usually screen anything that's on offer from MSUpdate before installing anything on the other 2. I also usually wait 30 days before installing any newly offered updates to see if something like this happens, but I think 3035583 has actually be re-issued several times since earlier this year so not surprised it slipped through. I do not allow the updater to run automatically in Services. I remember an issue but with USB connectivity with my controllers back in October 2 years ago that I think was caused by an winupdate. Took me 3 months to get over the problems, I think an update changed a setting for USB in the Turn Windows Features On/Off area. Maybe not. However, I can't think of any win update ever issued that helped with running FSX. Perhaps .net and directx should be kept current. I don't surf dodgy websites and do no business on the PC's so all there is to steal is a buggy FSX program. Have at it  |
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vic_baron
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Posted: May-24-2015 at 7:41pm |
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FWIW, I uninstalled, Update worked so I hid the 4. Problem item returned - uninstalled again - update still working so didn't run fix. Rebooted, problem gone and also all 4 are hidden in updates.
Thanx Nick. Vic
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Ronski
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Joined: December-01-2010 Location: w. Australia Points: 564 |
Posted: May-24-2015 at 8:20pm |
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Hi Nick and others,
Followed to remove updates etc. did a search and found this: Windows\WinSxS folder, prefixed "amd64_microsoft_windows_gwx". (get windows 10 ) seems the update installs these files. removing the updates does not remove the files, Also searched the registry ( search GWX ) and a reference to GWX with http links is in there. Something worth checking.  |
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NickN
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Joined: November-21-2007 Points: 17912 |
Posted: May-24-2015 at 9:40pm |
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That's the end-game exe they installed If the control files are dead it cant run but I can see it being reactivated with it still presentFunny thing is, when I did a trace on the run32dll processes that ran here it had no connection to GWX or that worker exe |
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777simmer
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Joined: May-08-2012 Location: Vienna Points: 1968 |
Posted: May-25-2015 at 3:44am |
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I now remember having dinner a few nights ago and my laptops fan going nuts all of a sudden....really loud annoying fan too!
It was just sitting there doing nothing supposedly......just checked, yep its got those nasty updates installed.....guess it was not just sitting there doing nothing after all.. Nasty things those Hobitses! |
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Rob
i7 3770k 4.5Ghz, Asus Max V Formula,GTX780 (previously 680), 8Gb GskillDDR3 2400@9-11-11-31, Change:Win7 64bit on WD Raptor and FSX on SSD since Jan2014. Untill Sept 2012: Core2Duo E8500@3.9Ghz |
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Fly happy
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Joined: October-10-2012 Location: Sweden Points: 871 |
Posted: May-25-2015 at 4:07am |
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Any suggestions what we should do about that .exe if present? |
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Hans
W7/64 Ultimate, FSX Gold, SB-E 3930K @ 4.7, Sabertooth X79, GTX580, 4x2GB G.Skill RipjawsZ @ 2133-9-11-10-28-1T, Corsair H110+Obsidian 900D,Seasonic P-1000, GEX, UTX, UT2, REX, S-Tech LC, NGX. |
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electric man
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Joined: November-22-2012 Location: Belgium Points: 460 |
Posted: May-25-2015 at 5:36am |
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I did everything told here but the kb2952664 kept coming right back, hiding it in the WU didn't help either, it just switched itself back as an important update and then found this solution which did work;
Set WU for " notifie if updates are available but I choose wether to download and install" then install the next program from the link http://qpdownload.com/iobit-uninstaller/... Upon install click refuse to all the crap it wants to install to and then when finished run the program ( it will switch to some scan software but just close it with the "x") click on the top left arrow down button and click on the last named Windows updates and search for all entries for kb2952664 ( I had 2 entries ), click uninstall and when finished on the promped click deep scan to be sure to remove all. Reboot and see if the kb is gone ( rebooted 4 times and it didn't come back anymore though the entries in Windows/winsxs/ are still there ( 6 entries on my PC are probably going to cause troubles in the future ( one entrie is already a GWX.exe )) If all is okay then just uninstall the 2 programs that came with it and reboot again. Bye bye for now for W10 Herman
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Ray Proudfoot
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Joined: April-04-2006 Points: 142 |
Posted: May-25-2015 at 6:01am |
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Many thanks Nick for your investigation and resolution. Microsoft should be ashamed of themselves. We are all in your debt.
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Cheers,
Ray 3 miles east of EGCC. |
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