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    Posted: March-02-2011 at 3:38am
I'm building a new FSX computer and I have already recieved many of the components at the moment I'm at a stand still on the CPU to go with? I've searched the web for some conclusive info about which CPU is better for FSX the Sandybridge i7 2600k or the i7 980x/990x. I haven't really found nothing to conclusive yet. Here is a list of the components I have for this build already:
EVGA GTX 580 SC
ENERMAX85+ 1050
CRUCIAL REALSSD C300 256 SATA III (FSX)
WD BLK 1TB SATA6 (WIN7)
WD VELOCIRAPTOR 450GB SATA6 (FS9)
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I have about 10-13days left before my 30days will expire at Newegg for returns. I'm thinking about returning the VRAPTOR and memory depending on your recommendation for the CPU. My decision on returning the Vraptor is I have the funds to get another SSD for the OS. I will be using the 1TB drive for storage for my FSX ADDON's. Thanks in advance for your advice.
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I have posted on your other thread, re memory. Again just from my experience with FSX, I would buy:
 
1. Fastest CPU you can afford. FSX needs CPU power. i7 980 or the Sandybridge. The latter because I believe it has massive o/c capability. However the i7 980 Gulftown "Extreem" will provide you with the best o/c available.
 
2. Fastest GPU. With Memory Bandwidth as number one consideration. Fastest wins. GTX 580 at 192.3 GB/Sec. If you want eyefinity then the ATI 6979 at 176 GB/s is the one ( at the moment! watch out for the 6990Wink )  The higher the memory bandwidth, the better the card will be able to handle large textures and anti-aliasing and anisotropic filtering. Its the speed at which the card can access memory.
 
3. Fastest memory timings, DDR3 ( on a P6T) CAS 6 @ 6-6-6 timings @ 1600.
 
FSX's old engine requires the above, IMHO. Even then it needs setting up correctly, tuning. I did mine from here:
 
 
Hope that helps.
 
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Be aware that the i7 2600 requires the 1155 socket. The 980 uses the 1366 socket.
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Cost per clock the best Sandybridge is the best choice but BE AWARE
 
Intel has RECALLED ALL 1155 Sandybridge chipset motherboards! And the revision B3 Cougar Point chipset is just NOW starting to come on the market.
 
My contact at Intel says to WAIT TO BUILD a Sandybridge system, in May they will be releasing the Z68 Cougar Point UPGRADE chipset which is in production now. It adds SSD cache to the mix
 
Honestly FSX is is simple, Fastest stable modern Intel CPU and memory speed/timing to keep up with the clock, and, with the right video card type in concert with the rest of the system.. that is the key to FSX goodness that does not require silly hacks of the config file and shader files that cause more problems than they are worth
 
Sandybridge may be able to clock higher, but the Gulftown has 6 cores...    so if ask me, yes Sandybridge is a great choice for FSX given what it lacks in cores it makes up for in clocking, and, the cost is lower with a less heat to deal with, HOWEVER, given the current issues with the Cougar Point chipset be AWARE of the recall and also be aware the nex Z68 variant is right around the corner.
 
I can make FSX run equally well on either platform
 
 
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Wow!! U guys gave some good reply's but it just made my decision more complicated. Being the fact that SB is going thou a recall and there are no mobo(P67)available at this time (Evga)Plus in the x58 series I'm trying to wait for the Evga Classified3 mobo but it's on back order and has been for awhile, even their FTW3 verison is out. I guess I'll hold on to my Corsair memory and go with an X58, any recommandation other then the two I mentioned already (Evga Classified 3 141-GT-E770-A1 or EVGA FTW3 132-GT-E768-KR). I guess I'll go with either the i7 980x/990. I'll wait for you guys replys. Thanks
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i7 980x @ 4.3GB/6GB GT2000@ 1600 @ 6-8-6-24-1 / EVGA GTX 580SC/X-Fi Pro/Crucial M4 256 FSX /Crucial C300 256GB WIN7 /SAMSUNG 24" PX2370/ENERMAX REV85+ 950/SilverStone TJ11 /H70 w/Swiftech Mod
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I assume that you plan on overclocking that 980X!  When you get ready to OC you are going to need a better HSF than the stock one that comes with the 980X.
 
The heat spreaders on that Corsair ram are pretty high and that may be a problem with a decent HSF like the Noctua NH-D14 or the Thermalright Silver Arrow.  Some heat spreaders like that you can remove, some you can not.
 
Ram like this Muskin will fit under either the D14 or the SA.
 
If you can find it anyplace this Muskin ram is even better.
 
Look on page five of this review
you can see that ram the size of the Muskin I posted will barely fit under the SA fan.  The fans on the SA can not be moved up using the supplied fan clips.  From what I have heard you can move the fans on the D14 up some.  Another thing that you could do if your case has enough room is to put one fan on the back of the HS as a pull fan rather than put it on the front as a push fan, but even if you did that the SA HS would still partially block the third ram slot that you would need for 6GB.
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You have a 6.7" (171mm) cooler limitation on that case. Can you squeeze the NH-D14 or the Silver Arrow cooler in there?
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Originally posted by Superglide Superglide wrote:

You have a 6.7" (171mm) cooler limitation on that case. Can you squeeze the NH-D14 or the Silver Arrow cooler in there?
 
 
 
I dont think so, that is very tight for the HSF's in question. If they did fit, I would say the door may be a little bent closing
 
7.5-8.0 would be the size that will fit such HSFs ASSUMING the motherboard mount tray is not suspended more than 1/2 inch from the other side internally.
 
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You'll save over $500 too.
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Originally posted by idahosurge idahosurge wrote:

I assume that you plan on overclocking that 980X!  When you get ready to OC you are going to need a better HSF than the stock one that comes with the 980X.
 

The heat spreaders on that Corsair ram are pretty high and that may be a problem with a decent HSF like the Noctua NH-D14 or the Thermalright Silver Arrow.  Some heat spreaders like that you can remove, some you can not.

I will be using this kit with this fan: ]http://www.heatsinkfactory.com/corsair-hydro-series-h70-ex-wat-156.html [/URL.com/tfc-triebwerk-tk-121-nb-multiframe-120mm-x-55mm-low-speed-fan-1200-rpm.html[/URL]http://www.heatsinkfactory

 

Ram like this Muskin will fit under either the D14 or the SA.


 

If you can find it anyplace this Muskin ram is even better.


 

Look on page five of this review


you can see that ram the size of the Muskin I posted will barely fit under the SA fan.  The fans on the SA can not be moved up using the supplied fan clips.  From what I have heard you can move the fans on the D14 up some.  Another thing that you could do if your case has enough room is to put one fan on the back of the HS as a pull fan rather than put it on the front as a push fan, but even if you did that the SA HS would still partially block the third ram slot that you would need for 6GB.
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I already have the case!
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At a recent Intel seminar introducing their new processor lineup, I enquired why the new Cougar Point chipset only supported dual-channel memory rather than the triple-channel memory of the X58 chipset. After all, if the two channels were fast enough, they could potentially outperform three slower channels. The presenter informed me that the 2xxx series were replacements for the i3, i5 and i7-8xx processors.
The 2xxx processors were aimed at the price-sensitive market. The i7-9xx series still rules the performance roost. Enthusiasts, it would appear, are less price-sensitive than the business users.
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Originally posted by PAGendron PAGendron wrote:

At a recent Intel seminar introducing their new processor lineup, I enquired why the new Cougar Point chipset only supported dual-channel memory rather than the triple-channel memory of the X58 chipset. After all, if the two channels were fast enough, they could potentially outperform three slower channels. The presenter informed me that the 2xxx series were replacements for the i3, i5 and i7-8xx processors.
The 2xxx processors were aimed at the price-sensitive market. The i7-9xx series still rules the performance roost. Enthusiasts, it would appear, are less price-sensitive than the business users.


But still the 2nd generation dual channel 2000 series outperform the enthusiast 900 triple channel series. Channels are not faster or slower per se. It depends on how fast RAM itself is, and memory performance is for what I know much more dependant on the IMC than RAM speed. Newer Sandy Bridge chips have an improved IMC that outperforms Nehalem's by a fair margin
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