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    Posted: July-09-2017 at 3:24pm
Hi J.P.

Since updating my PMDG 777 to the latest update that was issued at beginning of Jul. by PMDG, I have been getting FSX crash when trying to fly STARs. Sometimes it will just sit there setting up before the pause release stage and sometimes if it does get to release pause, it crashes FSX immediately on hitting "execute" after hitting "divert now" on the FMC.

I did delete my previous 777 from the aircraft in the setup page and set the new one up.

Update: Seems to work on short final practice, but have black instruments and descent to ground on reload of approach. I would also add that FSX passes test in troubleshooting page.

Update 2: Uninstalled FsiPanel and reinstalled - No change.

Update 3: Comletely uninstalled 777, redownloaded latest installers, reinstalled 777. Still won't work and cannot even get to FMC input.

FSiPanel Order number : xxxxxxx
FSiPanel has administrator right
FSX has administrator right
FSUIPC Version 4.968` Registered
Slew Mode Activated successfully
Lat : 33.7409911545051 Lon: -96.6602776412071
New Lat : 33.7409911545051 Lon: -96.6602776412071
SLEW Mode is OK
LUA Script OK

Here is a log of my last attempt at flying a STAR into KSLC if any use to you. Ai 11:24:00 is when it crashed to desktop.

10.07 11:22:11   ProcessOrder : Order = FSI@MOVE@PILOTWP@KSLC@16L@42.199900@-112.451236@31000@150@5@1@1@0@DEFAULT
10.07 11:22:11   FSiPanel will now start the flight
10.07 11:22:12   LoadFlight Stage 400, filename : F:\FSiPanel\SituationFiles\PMDG 777-300ER 220t PMDG 777-300ER PMDG HouseF30FSXCLEAN.FLT
10.07 11:22:19   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:20   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:21   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:21   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
10.07 11:22:22   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:23   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:23   FSX1 = 0 FSX2 = 3
10.07 11:22:24   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:25   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:25   Initial Timer = 51795.484
10.07 11:22:26   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:27   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:27   Initial Elapsed Time : 51795.484 Actual : 51797.515
10.07 11:22:28   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:29   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:29   Initial Elapsed Time : 51795.484 Actual : 51799.453
10.07 11:22:30   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:31   FSX not ready, waiting
10.07 11:22:31   FSX is ready to fly!
10.07 11:22:32   LoadFlight Stage 22, FSX Ready
10.07 11:22:32   Desired Pos : 42.2800369262695 -112.482040405273
10.07 11:22:32   Sim Act pos = 42.2800361110664 -112.482041666667
10.07 11:22:32   Position ok : Offset : 7.24423867369467E-05
10.07 11:22:33   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:34   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:34   Initial Timer = 51804.531
10.07 11:22:35   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:36   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:36   Initial Elapsed Time : 51804.531 Actual : 51806.546
10.07 11:22:37   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:38   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:38   Initial Elapsed Time : 51804.531 Actual : 51808.531
10.07 11:22:39   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:40   Waiting for FSX to be ready
10.07 11:22:40   FSX is ready to fly!
10.07 11:22:57   Ready to unfreeze, actual IAS = 0 Desired IAS = 230
10.07 11:22:57   Aircraft released for flight at : 2017-07-10 11:22:57 AM
10.07 11:24:00   Aircraft stable, N1Stable = True Act IAS = 233 Desired IAS = 230
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-10-2017 at 4:58pm
Anybody else run into this after Jul. 1st update?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-11-2017 at 11:03am
OK further update.

Can get the T7 to initialize, FsiPanel sets up the a/c, pauses the sim and when I unpause the 777, it fly's in the freeze mode as I requested ok. The problem seems to be immediately on hitting that "execute" button in the FMC after requesting "divert now", that is when the sim freezes and crashes to desktop seconds later.

I notice also that I can fly short landing approaches ok but where before, I could reload and repeat for several times, I can only reload the approach a couple of times max after which the 777 loads with all displays black and descends to ground even though my memory use is stil minimal.

Final update, fired up my PMDG NGX 737-800 and works flawlessly on FsiPanel.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote J-P Garraio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-13-2017 at 2:03am
Hi Rick,

I will give it a try today and report back to you.
For the number of approaches you can fly, it depends on the addon's memory usage, as you know FSX is a 32bit software and is limited by the VAS, this problem should be fixed with P3D V4.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-13-2017 at 8:22am
Hi J.P. Sorry forgot to mention that I am on a new install of FSX SE on a clean install of W10 64bit in mid June. As for memory use, I can get 7, sometimes 8 reloads out of my PMDG 737 NGX on short final practice as I could on my T7 before updating it on Jul.2 and that is when everything went wrong.

I definitely suspect the PMDG T7 which incidendly they updated again on Jul. 12. Love FsiPanel by the way.

Regards,
Rick.

P.S. Specs: W10 64bit
                    i7 7700k (stock speed for now)
                   GTX970 4g
                   16gig ram

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-14-2017 at 8:33am
Hi J.P. I am wondering if you have had the time to check this out yet? Sorry, I'm sure you are busy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-14-2017 at 1:54pm
Originally posted by hobbsy hobbsy wrote:

Anybody else run into this after Jul. 1st update?
Anybody?
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote J-P Garraio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-15-2017 at 2:43am
Hi Rick,

Yes I have the same problem as you, aircraft is at the right position.
I tried to change destination via ALTN as before but as soon as I press EXEC, FSX crashes..

I'm wondering why, I will try to find the reason for this crash but it seems to be a bug or something causing it on the 777 side.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote J-P Garraio Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-15-2017 at 6:17am
Hi Rick,

I've updated the files for the 777, please try to delete your 777s from FSiPanel and import a new one now.

Try to fly a STAR as before via the ALTN page.

Working?

Cheers,

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-15-2017 at 8:32am
Hi J-P, Where do I get the updated files for the 777?
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Just import a new 777 in FSiPanel.
The new files are on FSiPanel server and will download when you import the aircraft.

Cheers,

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-15-2017 at 9:32am
Yes I did as you suggested, and it kind of worked. By that I mean is that the aircraft initiated and while FsiPanel was trimming my aircraft before handing over to me in pause mode, it froze at the required altitude at almost full throttle. Instead of pausing the sim it just sat there trying to trim the a/c, so I depressed the brakes and it gave me control of the a/c in the usual freeze position. I then managed to set up my ALT and star approach in the FMC and then hit the brakes a second time to release the a/c to fly the star.

Correction: When the a/c is stuck at almost full throttle and I hit the brakes, FsiPanel releases the a/c to me in the "pause" position. After that, the procedure is exactly as per your tutorial video.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote hobbsy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: July-16-2017 at 11:54am
Hi J.P. Further to the above, the 777 will only reload a 4nm approach practice once, on the second reload attempt it loads to black displays and descends toward ground. I could get 7+ reloads on the 777 before the update on my rig. FsiPanel also does not like you changing the altitude to a higher one on the star practice. Often you will get the scenario mentioned above, where you have to hit the brakes to get FsiPanel to hand over the a/c in the pause state.

Just a heads up, PMDG has just updated the T7 base package "again". I am not upgrading my T7 for now as I can at least get my present one working in FsiPanel for practice, but you might want to take a look for yourself.

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Hi Rick,

I have the same issue.. It looks like it's a problem loading the PMDG DLL when FSUIPC is running.

If I disable FSUIPC, I can reload the flight several times, however this version of FSiPanel needs FSUIPC and also a lot of users use FSUIPC for their joysticks or for other reasons.

Same problem was reported on the release of the 747Q2 for P3D V4, it has been fixed since then, we can only wait and hope that a fix will come out.

Cheers,

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Thanks J.P.
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